Apple vs Uber

GoDaddy The Bulb
Aug 10, 2018 53 Comments

I got offers for both companies. Here are the numbers:

6 yoe

Uber:
175k base
11k RSUs (it depends who you ask but many funds value them between 40 and 60 per unit) new hire grant
50k sign on

Apple:
165k base
100k in RSUs new hire grant
30k sign up bonus

There is no doubt that Uber had changed the way we commute and it still have room to grow. On the other hand who knows when I will be able to cash out those RSUs.

Apple on the other hand is a solid company is not going away anytime soon. And I love their products.

Both teams create the same level of excitement in me.

Is it fair just to compare the numbers?

What intuition do you all use to take a decision like this?

Edit:

Adding more data.

Both are general (not very specialized) positions. Both are in senior web dev role.

The location is in the Bay area.

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TOP 53 Comments
  • New / Eng michalumni
    I would take Apple, Uber valuation seems lofty and like you said, it’s paper money.
    Aug 10, 2018 2
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      What do you think I a good valuation?
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Amazon AynU04
      It was $36 most recently, wasn’t it?
      Aug 10, 2018
  • Uber yrde31
    100k per year?
    Aug 10, 2018 6
    • Amazon / Eng kuKi@9$:!-
      Yeah, same doubt. 100k/4 seems very low.
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Uber frd45e
      Yes. Way too low. Only a jerk would miss Uber for that kind of salary..
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Apple hfr
      Apple relies on refreshers to actually set employee RSU compensation. Not initial grants given once when we know the least information about a candidate.

      (But also if you really don’t care whether you work at Uber or Apple do us a favor, leave us alone and work at Uber.)
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Uber frd45e
      I care where I work and so I am not interested in a half century old company which is finding it really hard to come with an innovative product after the unfortunate demise of the greatest visionary of the century and from the inception days of Uber. Sorry bro but Apple is going to die sooner than latter in case it doesnt stop depending on iPhone
      Aug 11, 2018
    • Apple hfr
      We all die sooner or later friend.

      And, I am no bro.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Uber 96fg3z
      Ok Op. If you want to die sooner, join Apple. If not, join Uber.
      Aug 12, 2018
  • I’ve worked for both. Very different cultures. Apple was more “professional” and hierarchical. Uber is more bottoms-up from engineering and collaborative, with much less direction. Your Uber offer seems way higher though, and there’s a better promotion process than Apple imo. So I’d take Uber.
    Aug 10, 2018 3
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      What makes the promotion process better?
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Uber qwertyb
      I think just the fact that there is a process. Things may have changed at Apple but I don’t remember ever hearing about one
      Aug 11, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Got it! I appreciate your input!
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Uber vfXu51
    I recently switched from Apple to Uber and this is the best career decision I have ever taken. Although Apple was super comfortable life but growth and learning curve was super slow. Uber is latest tech, fast paced, feels more energetic and exciting. I would suggest take Uber, you won’t regret it. Message me directly for any questions.
    Aug 10, 2018 6
    • Google / Eng Googler😉
      What is a good 5a offer?
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Uber / Eng
      tROh00

      Uber Eng

      PRE
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      tROh00more
      Apple comfortable? I've heard terrible WLB there.
      Aug 10, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Why did you have terrible WLB?
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Uber / Eng
      tROh00

      Uber Eng

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      tROh00more
      I *heard*
      Aug 10, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      My bad! That's what happens when I read things in a hurry
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Uber vfXu51
      Depends on your group in Apple. 10% of people in my group worked hard and remaining 90% pretended to work hard but were actually resting and vesting. Plus people are secretive and don’t trust each other, its a highly political environment
      Aug 10, 2018
  • GoDaddy The Bulb
    OP
    Both are in the bay area
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Uber gfd33i
    Please join Apple. We dont deserve a sr who cannot do simple maths!
    Aug 12, 2018 6
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      LOL, I didn't ask because of the numbers. I asked JIC there was something that I haven't considered. For example, I would accept such offer in a heartbeat if I would be helping to put a man in Mars (before you troll me, I know this case is not even close)
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Uber gfd33i
      I forgot. At godaddy you are doing exactly same lol..
      Aug 12, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Doing the same? What do you mean?
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Uber gfd33i
      Dude. You have a really good offer from Uber. You neednt have even asked the question here. It really irritates me with the company hiring people which are not confident about its future and mostly here for money.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Yup! That's the reason I am asking the question, while money is important I don't want it to be the only thing that I would consider. I have gotten great feedback so far!
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Uber gfd33i
      If you come here, be pationate and connected to not just money but to the cause. Understand our drivers and riders, strive to help them. The company affects people's life, provides them a means of livelihood and you are fortunate to be a part of it.
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Uber knight
    11k rsu with $40-60 vs $100k rsu? this is a no brainer?
    Aug 12, 2018 2
    • Uber 96fg3z
      Why did Uber choose to give the guy such a good offer?
      Aug 12, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      L'ORÉAL
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Cruise Automation CruiseHR
    What? Uber for sure ! Your comp will equal to Apple if Uber stock is valued less than 10 dollars per share.....
    Aug 10, 2018 1
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Great point!
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Apple abcd3f
    Consider the commute, if you already live in SF, then Uber for sure
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Microsoft TycoB
    Location? The Bay Area is expensive af compared to Seattle.
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    This should be a poll
    Aug 10, 2018 2
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      How do you make polls?
      Aug 10, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Figured it out
      Aug 10, 2018
  • GoDaddy The Bulb
    OP
    Pretty general I will say. Senior web dev.
    Aug 10, 2018 2
    • Uber / Eng wrgnii
      If it’s senior web dev, definitely go with Uber. There is amazing stuff happening in the data viz area and other places. Facebook and Google are the only two other places doing comparatively interesting work for this role.
      Aug 10, 2018
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Really good point! I appreciate the input!
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng kuKi@9$:!-
    OP, didn’t you try to negotiate with Apple for increasing RSU?
    Aug 12, 2018 1
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Yeah, recruiter is working on that
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng kkjgccc
    isn’t anyone feeling OP getting low balled? Those numbers just passed +200k but with 6 years of experience shouldn’t he expect more?
    Aug 10, 2018 1
    • GoDaddy The Bulb
      OP
      Yeah... I am figuring that's the case...
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Apple EmcF81
    Which team ? And what role is it ? Apple's culture vary with different teams and different orgs
    Aug 10, 2018 1
    • Microsoft TycoB
      How easy is it to switch teams at Apple?
      Aug 10, 2018
  • Uber frd45e
    Chooose Apple if you are interested in fucking yourself. Thats a really good offer by Uber for someone with 6 yoe and from GoDaddy.
    Aug 11, 2018 0
  • Honey Alolahaloo
    Uber.
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Lyft
    Aggretsuko

    Lyft

    PRE
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    Aggretsukomore
    I’ve heard Apple is easy and comfortable from people in all orgs, but obviously Uber is more impactful or exciting work
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng Googler😉
    Which level at Uber?
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng dsgjk
    roles? general swe or specialized ones?
    Aug 10, 2018 0

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