Are the bigger tech companies outsourcing?Mar 8
I guess not really outsourcing, but trying to shift development out of America and into cheaper countries and get rid of positions in America or other expensive countries.
Anytime someone leaves one of the software teams and we try to get a backfill management just says "we can get an entire team in India for that one American salary". It's getting to the point that in a year or two there's hardly going to be anyone left in the same office that all the product team is in. Are bigger tech companies experiencing the same phenomenon or is this only happening with slower growth smaller tech companies?
I can see expanding to other locations because you just can't find the talent where you are, but for us this is never the case, it's solely about dollars and cents, which seems crazy considering developers are the ones bringing so much value to the business.
- I agree to disagree, just because it’s going out of America does not mean the quality is any lower.
Countries like China India Korea .... , education is so competitive. You get to be the top creamy layer to even study a degree you like. That’s the reason you see many Asians in tech industries.
- Tableau / EngstthompsonIf by outsourcing you mean ordering their business cards from Vistaprint, no. Otherwise, yes.
- Amazon fckyoEntire team in India for that 1 American salary? You need some fact check son. Tech companies in India pay anything between $45k to $65k to SDE2. An SDM would make 1.5x of that. So every 1 US SDE you can hire 3 SDE in India. Not exactly an entire team.
- New / MgmtVSwf01All public companies are optimizing for profit. If it means outsourcing then that's what's going to happen. Those of us in dev are too cocky to realize it but we are often viewed as a cost center not a value creator.
- Microsoft innocentOnly non tech companies outsource their tech and IT departments because they don't care a shit about tech. Tech companies only outsource support engineers and customer service roles because they need representatives who speak local languages. Core development still happens in the US.
- Definitely not. We have a lot of the opposite, actually. Lots of talent coming here FROM those cheaper salary countries, often as an internal transfer, even.