I have some male friends who think that some of the female software engineers are hired only because they are women and not because of their talent. They think that software companies want to balance the gender ratio and that's why they hire women even though they are not as talented. Is anyone from recruitment or HR who can comment on this?
You are not in tech right? In tech, the interviewers are other engineers and they have a say in the outcome. HR doesn't
I have not seen this at all at LinkedIn. We have several programs to get women interested in tech but all our hires go through the same review as any other engineer.
Strong disagree there buddy.
TLDR: Yes Personal story: submitted my resume to FANG for internship. Rejected by automated machine a day later. Decided to test if gender makes a difference. Changed two things on resume. Name to a female version, i.e. Dan to Danielle, Michael to Michelle, Chris to Christina. Changed the email as well to reflect that change. Within 1 hour of submission, recruiters were on me like creepy dudes hitting on the hottest girl in the club. They followed up 3 times over the course of 2 months to schedule only phone interviews, that if passed, lead to the internship. Really disappoints me that the real me never stands a chance against the female me
As a woman, my experience is that it's likely easier to get an interview (I have zero problem with that) but it's harder to pass interviews.
How do you know how hard it is for men? Did you interview as both?
No, but I have never had issues getting interviews. I've interviewed with most of the top companies. In my past few job searches I did between 30 and 60 interviews per search with 20-50 companies each (before getting an offer). I've rarely ever heard of a man getting to that level.
It wouldn't make much sense to hire unqualified women. Because then they'd have to fire them when it became clear they were unqualified and a company would run into problems if they were firing only women.
What if they donât fire
Completely false. So false the very idea laughable.
the world belongs to men and the only way women are âpermitted â to enter the sacred realm of manliness is as token employees. Because they donât have the brains to otherwise pass a hiring bar. ^kind of what goes through your âfriendsâ heads it seems. Itâs quite delusional, donât you think?
I don't think anyone is quite delusional. I think their narrative (not mine please do not attack me) is given a male and female engineer with effectively equal skills the female has a statistical advantage. This is a claim and can be measured so I don't know why people so opinionated
What da fuck does âeffectively equal skillâ even mean? Do you know how many default/biased assumptions men get in their favor? And then extra points for being white or Asian because, you know, âculture fitâ; but deity forbid a qualified woman gets picked over a qualified man if there is only one spot left.
Fwiw the engineers I know who happen to be women are mostly very good. All things being equal women do have an edge in the hiring pipeline from a policy standpoint (Silicon Valley wants more women engineers, itâs no secret).. the reality is that there are tons of insecure dudes who spend a lot of energy on whether the woman deserves to be there such that biases tend to sometimes hurt and sometimes help women in the actual interview.
Some companies do. I have seen it first hand. But most companies go by interview performance. Personally, the women engineers I have worked with are brilliant and sharp. Never had any issue with their performance.
Yes this is true to some extent. They want to motivate them so as to come forward and bring gender equality at work. There are programs like 'Girls who code' to motivate and inspire them.
No, it isnât true. People that donât meet the bar arenât hired at good companies. Donât insult women.