I interviewed with Oracle OCI group and after going through 5 rounds and an on-site. I received a verbal offer and the team really wants me. I tried to negotiate the offer a bit but not a lot and was asked to complete a programming test from the recruiter if I want the offer. Feels a bit unprofessional to me. Is this normal? Or am I just overreacting? Edit: forgot current TC TC: 130k
What is this, back to school?
Sorry what do you mean?
School, in which you have to take multiple tests over and over.
I think that's fair.
Ok maybe I'm just overreacting than. Thanks for your perspective
Well if they ask you for a programming test, I’m not entirely sure they _really_ want you. Did your level change as a result of negotiations?
No I just asked for more than I currently make and that's what Oracle was offering. Just a bit lower than my current compensation
So you didn’t really receive the offer letter. Why does your subject say so?
I guess it was just a verbal offer and than the details about the offer in an email. I just assumed that qualifies
There is a whole process from verbal to official and anything can happen in between. I guess you probably should just go ahead with the test as not opting to do that will make your position weaker. Either way, strange team.
Must be those Amazon hires who run OCI now! Unusual though.
Dude wtf gave you verbal offer but asked you to do one more test?? What more is there to do after on-site? Don’t come here it’s a joke. Stupid OCI rules aren’t even followed...
Thanks for letting me know that! I was under the impression that the OCI teams were doing some interesting work? At least that's what the engineers at the interview told me.
The work is interesting but some managers are horrendous and people are dicks. There’s more and more chaos every day...one of our tenets is ownership and people don’t own their stuff and shift responsibility around. This is like almost every team at OCI. Some api or internal tech stack is broken, we ask the team to fix it...they say they’ll add it on their road map. Still not delivered after 6 months. 🤬
It happens man, they probably want you to do the test so they can check off the box when presenting you to the hiring committee or whatever. I don't think they mean any offense to you in anyway. However they definitely should have done it earlier in the process.
There's no 'hiring committee' unless OCI people brought that process with them. Hiring team interviews and makes an offer based on budget. Unless that budget got wiped or shifted and some other team is trading, this is not normal.
Exactly. No committee. Once u have hiring manager approval, and they have headcount, then you are in. It's simple. Maybe there isn't headcount. And they are trying to spin your wheels. Happens a lot. I would just ask them what they thought was lacking and why they hadn't mentioned it in the interview.
This is NOT normal. One scenario could be that they are considering moving you to a different team which has headcount or better fit. The new team wants additional data point (perhaps because the prior loop did not have documented feedback).
Unlikely
Above about budget true, but it's not all budget. Even if offer is in budget, it needs to be in the comp band range for the job and level. Final comp is negotiated by manager with HR with level setting the hard limit, even if there is budget for more. And even then there is a review process up the management chain to the top. Getting upleveled or a TC near the top of the current band or especially switching to a different job code that pays more is driven by hard evidence that the hiring manager provides to HR and reviewers. This is your resume, etc. Haven't heard of last minute coding tests, but I can see how good results from one could help here. An unbiased documented statement of your skill that can be waved around if the hiring manager needs a better hand to negotiate on your behalf. Annoying, since you already interviewed, but this could have been prompted by pretty much anything. If you want, you can ask the hiring manager directly after you pass the test with flying colors and have a written offer 😉
Have heard stories about google and LinkedIn doing this if they offer u grade x and u want x + 1. But oracle... really
I didn't ask for a grade higher. Just more than my current compensation because they came lower than what I currently make