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Oath Atinlay2
Jul 10 93 Comments

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  • Netflix psych0d@d
    How is this horrible? Have you ever had to raise a kid with health problems? Do you realize that often, giving birth to a kid with Down's Syndrome means forfeiting your own dreams, ambitions or aspirations for the rest of your life? Have you ever talked to parents of kids with Down's Syndrome? Do you know what it's like to worry constantly about what's going to happen to your child after you pass on? I know parents who decided to keep their baby but the had the financial means and the support system to deal with all those issues. Mom quit her job and is there to take care of her son. Dad makes enough money that they are fine and will leave money to ensure that their child is cared for after they're gone. Not everybody is that lucky. People make difficult decisions based on their circumstances.
    Jul 10 24
    • Intel gifkapa
      If a person causing hardship is permission to commit murder, can I lawfully/morally kill my in-laws?
      Jul 10
    • Amazon / Eng
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      That would violate my morals^
      Jul 10
    • Google kRUn66
      It is consired an embrio until end of 8 week. Then it is a fetus. Abortion is not a easy decision for most people and there are specialists that explain pacients risks and other mental aspects of it.
      Jul 10
    • Google kRUn66
      There is no murder if there is no person. Are your in-laws people ?
      Jul 10
    • Intel gifkapa
      After conception,, there is no point at which it isn’t a person.
      Jul 11
  • Netflix mr.clippy
    It is awful. NHS should have done the test as requested.

    No mother should have to have a down baby if they don’t want one. It’s better for everyone in that case if the fetus is aborted.

    Keep the self righteousness to yourself. This is clearly a private issue.
    Jul 10 40
    • Nvidia HKCN11
      I'm not the one talking about state's rights. That's the other fellow. I do think the state's rights argument has some merit, but I haven't thought deeply about what level of governance this matter should be discussed at.
      Jul 11
    • Netflix mr.clippy
      Sorry @Nvidia. Didn’t check the username.
      Jul 12
    • Intel gifkapa
      I do not want to make abortion federally illegal - I think each state should decide on their own.

      I love how your excuse for SCOTUS making decisions is that Congress isn’t doing what you wantZ. Great excuse for fascism.

      As I mentioned, murder isn’t a federal law except in rare cases. I’m good with each state making their rule on that and abortion.
      Jul 12
    • Netflix mr.clippy
      I don’t know why it’s so complicated here. SCOTUS doesn’t make laws. Congress does. Abortion was never illegal federally nor should it because doing so violates the constitution.

      I believe states can regulate abortion so long as they don’t completely ban them and make it impossible. Doing so violates constitutional law.

      We don’t need a narrow definition for life. Doing so just adds complexity and conflicts with existing laws and opens up an unnecessary can of worms and is just bad government.

      Abortion is a privacy issue. It’s a private medical decision. It’s a private family planning issue. Government has no role butting in and making decisions for you or more importantly taking away your decision any more than they can tell you who you can marry, what you can smoke or drink in the privacy of your own home. It’s bad government. Limit it to regulations per state.

      Don’t like abortion. Great. Don’t have one. Talk your loved ones out of having one. But stay out of everyone else’s lives.
      Jul 12
    • Intel gifkapa
      Makes sense. I’m libertarian by nature, so I tend to think if you want to remove your genes from the pool, go for it.

      With that said, there are some significant changes to the family demographic over the last 50 years that should raise some questions, and abortion being prevalent plays a role in that. If you factor in nearly half of African American pregnancies end in abortion, and 80% of all AA kids are born out of wedlock, about 90% of AA pregnancies are taking place giving the child the longest of odds of success (either dead or without a father). Other races are headed the same direction, but AA are the most dramatic stats used for effect. That can’t be viewed as a good thing for our society. If there were more consequences as it relates to sex and relationships, I would like to think the family unit would be stronger. Like I said, I’m libertarian by nature so I would hope individuals would course correct, but the law may help as well. Laws by nature are meant to correct for poor individual behavior. It seems we have a shit ton of terrible individual decisions being made and trending for the worse.
      Jul 12
  • Indeed egobruiser
    I thought it was routine for families to be notified if their child will have serious defects so they can make a *choice* about carrying out the pregnancy or aborting and starting over. What’s the problem?
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    • Oath Atinlay2
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      You’re wrong.
      Jul 10
    • Netflix mr.clippy
      Then prove it smarty pants.
      Jul 10
    • Google Eibwlwuw78
      NIPT (more accurate blood test) is optional. NT scan (12 week ultrasound, which includes measuring for some indicators of Downs) is considered standard care - no idea if you can decline that, I don’t think most people would.
      Jul 10
    • Oath Atinlay2
      OP
      That’s what I was talking about. Thank you.
      Jul 11
    • Netflix mr.clippy
      They do that same test at 12 weeks just about in every developed country. It’s standard practice. It’s not something that’s denied in NHS. Why would it? Like you said, it leads to higher costs. So everyone should be informed.

      And the invasive blood test is what I was taking about as being clearly optional. I wouldn’t be surprised if you can decline to know downs at 12 weeks just like you can decline to know the sex either.
      Jul 11
  • Facebook Sffffft
    Women shouldn’t have to have kids they don’t want. Period. That’s no good for any kid. They should’ve ran the test, told her and let her exercise her options.
    Jul 11 5
    • Oath Atinlay2
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      🙄
      Jul 11
    • Verizon / Eng HansBomb
      My cousin has no legs, pretty good sized burden to the rest of his family. Should we kill him because his mom is tired. Where do we draw the line?

      I’m not sure you’d stand by your statement if your mother was currently wondering if she wanted a kid.

      If she isn’t sure, quite simply don’t have one. There’s quite an easy way to avoid pregnancy, there’s actually many. And there’s literally plenty of ways to never even have to raise a child you don’t want as well.
      Jul 11
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Don't fuck then.
      Jul 11
    • Facebook Sffffft
      HansBomb if your cousin’s mom didn’t want to have your cousin then she had every right not to. That’s why abortion is legal. Now that the cousin is here it would be murder to do so, so yeah don’t kill your cousin at this point unless you want to go to jail. Not advised. And if my mom aborted me at pregnancy it wouldn’t mean anything to me because I never would’ve been alive in the first place for it to. lol
      Jul 11
    • Facebook Sffffft
      mH7bSe The thing is you can fuck all day AND STLL not have children if you so choose, even if your fucking results in conception. 😊😊😊😊😊 Abortion is legal folks. She should’ve been able to understand what was happening and have one if she wanted. And if she doesn’t want the kid now there are still options to find it another home. I’m not passing judgement either way as I’m not the one who has to care for that kid every day. Neither are you.
      Jul 11
  • Airbnb / Eng savoir
    I would’ve aborted as well.
    Jul 10 0
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    Wrong because the mom doesn’t think people with Down syndrome are redeemable, or wrong because medical personnel didn’t conduct tests?
    Jul 10 1
    • Oath Atinlay2
      OP
      Wrong on both accounts. Nobody is right in this case
      Jul 10
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    My former roommate got a disabled daughter at the age of 27. Her marriage fell apart. She had not ensign money to take care of the child. The child was only able to breath, no speaking, no walking, not even able to eat. This ruined her whole life. She told me she would aborted the child if she knew (rare condition and not tested). Disabled children are a huge burden to the family. Her dreams of a happy life and a second child were gone. Also she doesn’t no what happens to the daughter if she is too old to care.
    Jul 10 0
  • Target / Eng tmDe33
    Blind's terrible android app dies on this link 👇
    Jul 10 1
    • Microsoft lakdpejsk
      For me on any link 😁
      Jul 11
  • Amazon HPv4yl
    I wouldn’t wish what happened to her on anyone. And if they told her her fetus was healthy when in fact it had Down Syndrome, then there’s definitely standing to sue for malpractice. 200,000 GBP seems quite low compared to the costs she is likely to incur over that child’s lifetime.
    Jul 11 0
  • Apple magikarp16
    Abortions need to be deregulated
    Jul 12 0
  • Verizon / Eng HansBomb
    Shit happens, deal with it.
    Jul 10 0