Azure vs amazon vs oracle cloud offer

Microsoft yWlw81
May 12, 2018 39 Comments

I'm currently working on azure at microsoft. I have been with microsoft for 4 years. Recently I have been offered two oportunities for jobs at different companies. One of the jobs at oracle as senior. The other job offer is sde2 at amazon. I heard that senior at oracle = sde2 at amazon. They have similar pay and it is more than my current job. I'm trying to decide the best option for my career growth. Should I stay at azure, join oracle or join amazon? How is the culture difference between the three? Which one will look better on my resume and which one will help me advance in my career? Is it easy to join microsoft again if I left?

Thanks for your help,

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  • Microsoft Forza55
    Azure has amazing problems to solve and amazing growth. I think your problem is finding the opportunities to get recognized. You need to realize in life that running around from job to job to try and get a slightly better deal isn’t nearly as effective as trying to create a better situation where you are. All these companies are growing, but the best overall business opportunity is Azure. You should spend some time trying to connect with your manager in 1:1’s and let him know that you want a long term growth path and what his expectations are from you to make it happen. If your manager isn’t helping, look for a move within Azure, there is no shortage of opportunities . Just make sure you move somewhere where you know the manager cares about you and your growth. Of course this is all contingent upon you being willing to work beyond the box of your job definition and assignments. You need to show you care about the overall success of the company with your actions, and aren’t just punching a clock and doing the minimum. Of course that attitude will help no matter where you go.
    May 13, 2018 1
    • Microsoft naaam
      Looking for another opportunity with the same sad salary? Instead why not go to AWS, where the future isn't any less brighter plus a comp bump and level bump? No one owes their loyalty to a company neither the company will for you.
      May 13, 2018
  • Microsoft rXRl51
    Oracle —- Cloud —- ha! ha! ha!
    May 13, 2018 4
    • Microsoft Opinorat
      What does that mean?
      May 13, 2018
    • Microsoft rXRl51
      You’re not considering Oracle as a serious cloud player I hope. Lack of datacenter availability, lack of services available in data centers. Challenge them while interviewing and ask them how they think about AI, GPU/FPGA, micro services / serverless.
      May 13, 2018
    • Oracle erfis
      We have gpu, micro services, and serverless offerings. They are less mature though, the org is only 3 years old. That has cons, but also pros. The work left to do is interesting and we arent so bloated with engineers and legacy systems to maintain so you get a large area of responsibility. Even if Oracle looks worse on your resume, resume only helps you get an interview. To actually do well on interviews you need to show large areas of impact. OCI can easily give you those opportunities.
      May 13, 2018
    • Microsoft O366
      Oracle is not as bad as it sounds - they have bare metal server division (via Sun Microsystems) and a tonns of open source exp (java)
      May 13, 2018
  • Oracle ocaml
    Amazon/AWS will look better on paper, except maybe to people who know better. Oracle you can have more individual ownership and impact if in OCI. OCI and AWS culture are similar, but Amazon’s is more mature.
    May 12, 2018 4
    • Microsoft yWlw81
      OP
      Yeah, It is OCI. Could you please explain more what makes oci better in terms of giving the chance to more individual ownership? Like how the work is getting assigned or what they are doing differently?
      May 13, 2018
    • Oracle ocaml
      In my experience, it’s less typically “assigned.”

      Needs are rooted out by engineers. Solutions are proposed to management by engineers. Solutions are then built by engineers.

      Leadership largely sets high-level strategic product direction and goals, but for the tactical plans and execution, it’s as bottom-up as you want it to be.

      Where I’ve seen this not be the case is when a team doesn’t execute on the goal. Then management can get prescriptive. But I consider that a failure by all parties involved.
      May 13, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng afrdw
      I agree completely with ocaml. I'd add that there's so much more to do in OCI because they're trying to catch up. Add in the smaller number of engineers ans people can't get siloed into one small thing.
      May 13, 2018
    • Oracle swmkea@w
      So true!!!
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng
    sohajtjvg

    Oracle Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft, Amazon
    sohajtjvgmore
    In Amazon which team or Org ? What’s your goal behind this move ?
    May 12, 2018 3
    • Microsoft yWlw81
      OP
      Consumer division. experience, resume, money.
      May 13, 2018
    • Google / Eng Ganjamylyf
      Experience: oci wins, resume: aws wins
      May 13, 2018
    • Oracle erfis
      Consumer isn't aws though.
      May 13, 2018
  • Box / Eng GoCloudAL
    If you are looking for a good culture, check out Box. It's really great! PM me for a referral.
    May 13, 2018 0
  • Oracle / Eng
    sohajtjvg

    Oracle Eng

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    Microsoft, Amazon
    sohajtjvgmore
    Oracle OCI is still very new. Lots of growing pain, immature management and culture
    May 13, 2018 3
    • Microsoft yWlw81
      OP
      Could you please give some examples?
      May 13, 2018
    • Microsoft JDwb49
      I got quite a good vibe from OCI
      May 13, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng
      LarryzBalz

      Oracle Eng

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      Booz Allen Hamilton, Microsoft
      LarryzBalzmore
      OCI is great. Go with who you want to work for and who has the best deal
      May 13, 2018
  • Microsoft naaam
    If it was AWS, then the answer was clear. But going from Azure to Amazon, I don't know. Oci kinda feels better that way.
    May 13, 2018 2
    • Microsoft Opinorat
      Could you explain more?
      May 13, 2018
    • Microsoft naaam
      Azure, AWS, oci are all cloud and technology first class. Amazon is retail first class.
      May 13, 2018
  • Amazon pll0
    I’ll suggest not to go to Amazon consumer division. Try to get another team at Amazon. Azure is better
    May 13, 2018 0
  • New purp
    May 13, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Mgmt psike
    Oracle is old world, never really understood cloud and the investment is absurd compared to the 3 leaders.
    May 13, 2018 1
    • Oracle erfis
      Which is why OCI is basically all people from AWS and Azure :)
      May 13, 2018
  • Oracle BSJr60
    One thing to understand is Oracle is a sales company first, everything else is secondary. I've heard AWS and Azure have better developer culture but can't vouch. If you like startup fire with the slow culture of big corporation then Oracle is for you.

    (I have heard of people leaving Microsoft for Oracle because of the big hiring bonus Oracle offers but after they get it, after 3ish years, they return to Microsoft)
    May 13, 2018 0
  • Google / Product
    alexstamos

    Google Product

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    Uber
    alexstamosmore
    Who is leading OCI?
    May 20, 2018 3
    • Microsoft jmss
      No idea
      May 20, 2018
    • Oracle qJPj87
      Don Johnson, who is a former Principal Engineer at AWS. Most of senior management are former AWS.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Google / Ops
      Argv

      Google Ops

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      Uber
      Argvmore
      Is that not a good thing?
      Jun 22, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng
    Nutella.

    Microsoft Eng

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    Amazon, Google
    Nutella.more
    What is OCI? I’m intrigued
    May 13, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Opinorat
      Oracle cloud
      May 13, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng Oraafhptd
    Try to get a counter offer?
    May 12, 2018 1
    • Microsoft yWlw81
      OP
      I'm still negotiating but I care less about the money.
      May 13, 2018
  • Microsoft O366
    How much bump are you getting?
    May 13, 2018 0
  • Which level are you in MS? Also which team in MS and what's your general feelings about the team?
    May 13, 2018 0