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Baby It’s Cold Outside

New canela
Dec 6

Is it about date rape?

Context:
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/05/673770902/baby-it-s-cold-outside-seen-as-sexist-frozen-out-by-radio-stations

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deanmartin/babyitscoldoutside.html

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  • Amazon Stylus
    I know it's all the rage to rip on snowflake millenials, but when I listen to the song it sounds a lil rapey to me. Maybe if you've never been raped, or had a date rape attempted on you, you'd disagree.
    The song was written in a different time: A time when men controlled everything and women were trophies that ran the home. I think it's ok to ban the song because the biggest concept around rape culture (that is not taught in schools) is consent. The song has a woman who clearly wants to leave, is worried about getting home safely and a man who isn't listening to her wanting to go. Instead of helping her figure out how to get home, he's pressuring her to stay and ignoring her no. Insyead of making her feel safe and comfortable (I'll set you up in the guest room / on the couch), he pursues keeping her there to cuddle more. Sounds rapey to me and if it helps one young boy in the world understand the concept of consent better, then it's a win for women everywhere.
    Dec 610
    • Intel Roggik
      I presume you’ve heard the version where they swap the roles? Also rapey?
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft lwou04
      Dec 6
    • Google / Eng
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      I am coming from a different culture so I am fairly “traditional” man - and in our culture woman cannot admit she wants to stay. She will need to pretend she needs to be persuaded and will be sending mixed signals. To me it sounds like this song is specifically about that sort of exchange.

      I am pretty sure there are enough women in US who behave the same way. It is part of culture and it does boost ego of both parties (woman feels like a man had to earn her and a man feels like he achieved a conquest).

      Liberals are trying to deny this is a part of human nature. I think they will need 20 more years to succeed.
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft lwou04
      I’m a pimp in every sense of the word, bi$$ch better trust and believe em in the cut where I’ll keep em til I need a nut, til I need to beat the guts.”  Those are lyrics by JayZ...visited Obama and hosted a concert for precious Hilary...where is the ban on Jayz????
      Dec 6
    • Amazon Stylus
      All valid points... I especially like the comments from euos. I personally can see how the whole 'play hard to get' tradition interferes with the idea of consent. A good girl wouldn't want to stay the night... But I think this is total bs and women like this need to evolve. Women, know what you want and go get it. Stop giving men all the power.
      JayZ's lyrics are rhymes. They illustrate a bad ass mood using abstract sentence structure and comes recommended for adult listening. You know what you're signing up for. The Xmas song is supposed to be wholesome, but it's actually downright creepy.
      Dec 6
    • Amazon Stylus
      The role reversal version isn't as bad because you don't have thousands of years of women raping men as a stigma behind the story. I still think it's a pretty shitty friend move to try and talk someone out of doing what they want to do (get home safe).
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft lwou04
      According to a study by the Black Youth Project, 58 percent of black youths, 45 percent of Hispanic youths and 23 percent of white youths say they listen to rap music.....adult listening...lol
      Dec 6
    • Intel Roggik
      We all agree there’s a difference between talking and sticking your dick in someone, yes?
      Dec 6
    • Amazon Stylus
      The fact that some men still think they need to dominate a woman to have sex with her is the reason we still need to have this conversation. A complete ignorance around the concept of consent. No means no. Stop fucking it up for everyone.
      Dec 8
    • Intel Lofjea
      No shit, everyone under the age of 40 grew up in the era where this is the accepted norm.
      Dec 8
  • Microsoft lwou04
    Let's just go ahead and destroy everything while we are at it...Liberalism is a true mental disorder...this will be the next targets:

    1. I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus: subjecting minors to softcore porn
    2. The Christmas Song: Open fire? Pollution. Folks dressed up like Eskimos? Cultural appropriation
    3. Holly Jolly Christmas: Kiss her once for me? Unwanted advances
    4. White Christmas? Racist
    5. Santa Claus is Coming to Town: Sees you when you’re sleeping? Knows when you’re awake? Peeping Tom stalker
    6. Most Wonderful Time of the Year: Everyone telling you be of good cheer? Forced to hide depression
    7. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: Bullying
    8. It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas: Forced gender-specific gifts: dolls for Janice and Jen and boots and pistols (GUNS!) for Barney and Ben
    9. Santa Baby: Gold digger, blackmail
    10. Frosty the Snowman: Sexist; not a snow woman
    11. Do You Hear What I Hear: blatant disregard for the hearing impaired
    12. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas: Make the yuletide GAY? Wow, just wow
    13. Jingle Bell Rock: Giddy up jingle horse, pick up your feet: animal abuse
    14. Mistletoe and Holly: Overeating, folks stealing a kiss or two? How did this song ever see the light of day?
    15. Winter Wonderland: Parson Brown demanding they get married…forced partnership.
    Dec 62
    • Mphasis / ProjectWaitbutY?
      You’ve destroyed Christmas forever for me 🤦🏻‍♂️ what should I listen to now - Merry F***ing Christmas by Dennis Leary?
      Dec 6
    • Google PeepsAlot
      Post this on twitter down with the liberals / SJW!
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  • Dropbox drl/food
    Liberals finding a way to remain outraged at everything.
    Dec 65
    • New 0hedge
      They never offer a good solution though except take more from others
      Dec 6
    • Dropbox drl/food
      If things are so bad in the world (as liberals claim) then why do they have to keep making shit up to be outraged about?

      Really makes you think.
      Dec 6
    • New 0hedge
      Sore losers always manage to blame others....
      Dec 6
    • Jesus fucking Christ. Stop the blanket generalizations...
      Dec 7
    • Dropbox drl/food
      Never!
      Dec 7
  • Amazon / MgmtKYuG83
    Talking to a woman = raping her in 2018. So yes this song is about rape. It’s not right.
    Dec 62
    • Amazon Stylus
      I'm so sorry about your unattractive attitude towards the world. You mustn't have very many friends. You know you can work on that right?
      Dec 6
    • Get his ass to the warehouse for re-education as he fulfills those Prime orders.
      Dec 7
  • Google d86gd2
    Imagine banning music because of your own ignorance and projection.

    Have we looped back and became fundamentalist Christians?
    Dec 60
  • Google / Eng
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    Father Figure https://g.co/kgs/eKrjic

    If at all we start banning and boycotting songs, let's start with this one. So pedo!
    Dec 60
  • Amazon BB!
    Hardcore liberal atheist here- I like my Christmas music and I think this one is jazzy.

    I understand how this song can come off iffy but I still sing along. I like the rendition with Seth MacFarlane.
    Dec 60
  • Google lIlIlllIII
    I like the song and still play it every winter season but the lyrics are still very rapey.
    But it wasn't so long ago that it was simply a woman playing "hard to get", a man had to be persistent to show how much he wanted her.
    Today this is no longer acceptable apparently.
    Dec 65
    • Google / Eng
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      More accepted by a certain generation, certain background and certain nationality. I would not be surprised if most US women still want to be courted, persuaded and “conquered“. It really boosts their ego.

      Snowflakes are a rare breed, who cares what they are offended by.
      Dec 6
    • Google lIlIlllIII
      Perhaps, but if the culture is shifting then I think it's best to readjust your baseline.
      Otherwise you end up being that weird rapey dude.
      Dec 6
    • Amazon Stylus
      Women want to be conquered because it's good for their ego?? Wow, that is messed up. Because every time a country was conquered the newly occupied country is thinking they are on top of their world game.
      Dec 6
    • Amazon / MgmtKYuG83
      A woman being sexually dominated is different than a nation waging war and taking all property and culture by force.

      Many women prefer submissiveness during sex, some do not. In a different time, the man pursued, and persistence was rewarded in sexual selection. But the persistence was often toxic so the culture improved to reframe acceptable vs non-accepted persistence. Even today women still often prefer a sexually dominant male partner.
      Dec 7
    • Google lIlIlllIII
      Culture is not immutable. It's expected that those of us who were content are finding this change uncomfortable.
      Dec 7
  • Yahoo Whtvr
    It’s offensive—the lyrics itself is not by itself but the female voice keeps responding and that changes things
    Dec 60
  • Intel Roggik
    Jesus, wait until these people listen to Winger’s “Seventeen”
    Dec 60

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