Barnie sanders promise student loan cancellation. What about those who diligently paid in past? Wont they feel cheated?

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Jul 10 75 Comments

Those who cleared student loan in past should demand a refund too.

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  • Amazon Vaporeon
    "if I can't benefit from it, no one can!" lol
    Jul 10 8
    • Microsoft 🐰bunyqueen
      Only problem is that I don’t care what other people’s “cost” is.

      And your tax analogy does not really work since taxes are used for the common gdod.
      Jul 10
    • Uber / Eng fomo
      Buny here is probably too young to understand how the world works
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft 🐰bunyqueen
      At least I am not a cynical dumbass
      Jul 10
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      It was unfair to everyone who died of polio when they later invented a vaccine and gave it away for free.
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft baito
      Wait you can chose to get polio?
      I didn’t know that

      Dude that’s a sad argument
      Jul 11
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    • Cisco amznoin
      That’s wrong comparison. They were forced into slavery . Loan was not forced , it was a choice
      Jul 10
    • Peloton / Other
      Thizzy

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      Thizzymore
      Seems like Ford and Microsoft doesn't hire too bright either? Lol
      Jul 10
    • Facebook / Eng mturtle
      @Ford. You work at Ford...enough said.
      Jul 10
    • Cisco amznoin
      @Dijkstra- I agree on making improvements as long as it doesn’t burden tax payers.

      Does loan cancellation means banks won’t ask for it ?dont think so..where is that money coming from ?
      Jul 10
    • Amazon
      peepoodo

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      peepoodomore
      Same place the money that bailed their asses out in 2009 came from. Same place the gigantic tax cut that benefits 0.01% of the population came from.
      Jul 10
  • Airbnb Vvwk34
    This doesn’t make sense. Basically lefties just spray tax payers’ money for tickets
    Jul 10 1
    • Google Mr. Glass
      You’re finally getting wise. Spread the word, expose the leftist scum for who they are
      Jul 10
  • Google PCBro
    It's not loan cancellation, it's paying off loans with taxpayer money

    Edit: there's no government money, it's taxpayer money.
    Jul 10 2
    • LinkedIn cd-
      The loan already made a hefty profit for the taxpayers.
      Jul 10
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      "for" the taxpayer?
      What does that mean in English?
      Jul 10
  • Google NSFW4
    This sounds like a great way to encourage and subsidize more studying in useless humanities fields. Thus creating another whole generation of grads without jobs, thus creating more Democrat voters!

    It's brilliant Jerry
    Jul 10 0
  • Google F0m38g
    Community college and in state tuition is already dirt cheap with plenty of scholarships for poor kids.

    The biggest benefactors will be middle class kids who overpaid for out of state or private school tuition and school admins. They get no sympathy from me.
    Jul 10 9
    • Google F0m38g
      It's not a penalty as much as a tax backed education subsidy by the state for people in the state. The out of state tuition is the "real" cost without years of in state tax payments.

      This is not the same as gas taxes. For one gas taxes actually vary quite a bit between locales. Plus by buying gas you put money into state coffers, whereas in state tuition "withdraws" from it.
      Jul 10
    • Oracle alwzangry
      🤦 nevermind
      Jul 10
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Sure it's also not children's fault to born in a poor family.
      Let's ban inheritance. Start with billionaires' "charity fund".
      Jul 10
    • Google F0m38g
      Poor kids already get scholarships and reduced tuition. They're not the primary beneficiaries of Sanders' plan.
      Jul 10
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      But they don't get to inherit millions or billions from patents. It's not their fault born in a poor family.
      Jul 10
  • Box boxboo
    If I had been a student at my alma mater today, it would have been free based upon my parents’ income, whereas I racked up 40k in loans. I’m not bitter about that—I’m happy that future students won’t have to start their lives in the way I did. If this really upsets someone that much, they need to look inward.
    Jul 10 2
    • Indeed Ioser
      this is dumb because it made you pay 40k more than someone else for the same opportunity to be your competition in the marketplace
      Jul 10
    • Amazon Coatl
      You should seek equality in justice, not in oppression. This is a global economy anyway, you are already competing with people who didn’t have to pay as much for their education anyway.
      Jul 10
  • Lyft done2
    Lots of people spending lots of money on worthless humanities degrees, there aren’t even learning the classics anymore literally just ideological indoctrination post truth. These people should be bankrupt. I don’t want to
    can encourage more people to throw their lives away after all
    Jul 10 1
    • Google F0m38g
      Do to universities what college professors want to do to the medical industry.

      - put price controls on tuition and limit price hikes
      - put caps on administration cost's percentage of the budget
      - take away their tax breaks and give the revenue to students
      - heavily tax University endowments

      Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander 🤑
      Jul 10
  • Finale Inventory / Eng huHG50
    It's less than what Trump's tax cuts gave the rich. Aren't his tax cuts unfair to people who were paying higher taxes before? If you never want things to change because it's unfair to people that had things worse before, we would never make changes that benefit society.
    Jul 10 1
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      All tax cuts are fair. Actually taxation is unfair. It's now less unfair with the cut.
      Jul 10
  • Lyft done2
    What about if we used some of the incredible powers of government to try to reduce the cost of education and expand vocational options? No can’t do that because universities are part of the lefts power base and wouldn’t want to cut into their profits.
    Jul 10 5
    • Microsoft iiieeegemm
      Some dems have been calling for that including Hilary
      Jul 10
    • Lyft done2
      That’s not what we’re hearing today. The traditional liberals seem to be extinct. what we have now is something else entirely
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft iiieeegemm
      Really? Pretty sure that is a pretty typical democratic belief.

      The party is interested in doing what needs to be done to make the country and people the best we can be.

      If something makes sense to do then the idea will be explored.

      Contradict that with the republican party that just stands by their tired old ideaologies of letting the rich keep all their money.
      Jul 10
    • Lyft done2
      No, the current dem consensus is just to make someone else pay for it. No one’s interested in reducing the cost of healthcare or education those industries are huge donors to the Democratic Party after all. Wake up
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft iiieeegemm
      That's just strait up false and not at all what I stand for.
      Jul 10
  • Ford GXqN18
    Nyc already has free public college. Before that students paid for degree out of pocket. They weren’t given a refund that doesn’t make any sense. Student debt will be cancelled and public college will be free, those who came before have paid their dues just as those who are in debt now are paying their dues. Ask anyone who has student debt and paid it off, they will of course say it’s fine with them to cancel for others cause they know how crippling it is. If not for them then for their children. It’s common empathy you soulless dummy
    Jul 10 2
    • Jet level61
      Cancelling loans treats the symptom and not the problem. Loans cover more than education - housing, etc. banks should be required to qualify students and charge near 0% interest since the loan is guaranteed by the gov’t. This is simply a transfer of wealth.
      Jul 10
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      Has nothing to do with empathy. It’s about generating success. As a society. The more people succeed the more we all are. Same reasons we build roads. And fire departments. And school for kids.
      Jul 10
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    It’s all shitposts and jokes - get a sense of humor!
    Oomnjmore
    Lmao you’re a schmuck if you paid your student loans or credit card or house mortgage. You should go into activism instead
    Jul 10 0
  • Apple f18eh67
    I’m not a Bernie fan and can imagine that this idea is taken out of context (though knowing Bernie, it probably wasn’t and is just a crazy idea).

    The question remains, do you think we in the US should have free higher education? I think we should but how would we get there? Saying it’s not “fair” that new students don’t have to pay when you did isn’t quite accurate. You would still benefit by not directly having to pay for your children’s higher education. Maybe you would have to pay through taxes though. What if taxes were paid for by businesses? What if US citizens got “free” higher education while non-US citizens still had to pay, maybe even more than they currently do. What if certain (local?) schools were free but out of state ones cost money.

    It’s annoying to watch these posts that throw everyone in a tiff rather than thinking logically about the problem. It’s what’s become of US politics and culture over the last decade and it’s exactly what foreign governments are doing to spread disinformation.
    Jul 10 8
    • Oracle alwzangry
      You're entitled to get ripped off though. Until the free markets correct themselves, the cartels will price gouge.
      Jul 10
    • Apple f18eh67
      @uber no one said we’re entitled to it, at least not currently as we aren’t. The question though is do you think it would improve our country as a whole if higher education was something that was available to all US citizens? I think the benefit of that could be greater than the financial cost depending on what we used to pay for it.
      Jul 10
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Well when talking about uneducated low skill illegals, some people were saying that US economey doesn't need more educated high skill university grads but need low skill labors.
      Now it's different?
      I think most so called higher education is useless and wasteful. If it's useful they won't need "cancelling" their loan. They'll pay it off in the first 2 years.
      Jul 10
    • Apple f18eh67
      Who is “some people?” It’s possible we need both I’m not going to try and prove either point. I’m just saying we should actually ask the appropriate questions instead of getting violently upset about every comment that is made.

      I can accept you think higher education is useless however I would counter that higher education isn’t about teaching job skills (unlike what we do with CS). Personally I think having more educated people would help us plan our future as a nation in an educated way instead of emotional gut reactions like we currently do.
      Jul 10
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      If higher education isn't about job skills, it should not open to ordinary people.
      Jul 10
  • Expedia e2t2
    OP
    Google, @QCNY. If you are such bleeding heart why dont you pay off student loan of atleast 2 students? After all you are in high TC.
    Secondly, many student take extra loan to buy luxaries..vacations..so waving that means they got rewarded for irresponsible behaviour. Only thing I can agree with is to reduce tution to make it affordable for future students.
    Jul 10 0
  • Puppet pqXV61
    Nope. I'd be happy other people get to avoid the bullshit I went through. I value a highly educated society and fully publicly funding college and university studies would be a huge boon for that.
    Jul 10 0
  • Amazon Vaporeon
    "Bernie Sanders promise free libraries for all. What about those who diligently paid for books in the past? Won't they feel cheated? I don't want my tax dollars funding someone else's reading!"
    Jul 11 2
    • Lyft done2
      It’s not that he has not identified for an issue, it’s just he’s come up with the worst possible solution.

      Reduce the cost of education, stop having government backed loans for degrees with no economic value, massively expand vocational education coupled with the economic nationalism policy to bring back high skill manufacturing
      Jul 11
    • Uber / Eng fomo
      Socialists need to understand basic economics and human nature. The success of modern world is built on self-interest and fairness of contracts. Just look at the Dems in the debate, everyone except Andrew Yang was just expressing emotions trying to get attention. Such clowns
      Jul 11
  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    We should force professors in liberal arts to earn minimum wage.
    That's more effective.
    Jul 10 0
  • Google QCNY71
    Did Lehman Brothers feel bad when AIG got so much bail out money in 2008? hint that amount of money could have paid off every mortgage in America. Student loan cancellation is critical is we want the next generations to have kids and mortgages and keep the status quo in flow (student debt is causing young people to forego these expenditures). So basically "feeling bad" you personally had to pay off debt vs the American economy collapsing b/c a bunch a teenagers were pressured into making bad financial decisions by a delusional society is not a sound assessment of the situation.
    Jul 10 0
  • Microsoft iiieeegemm
    It's not about fairness. It's about helping the economy by getting those under a huge debt out of said debt.

    That's the idea.
    Jul 10 2
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Give me 1 billion. I promise I'll spend it so that helps economey.
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft iiieeegemm
      OK. Give me a few minutes to find my PayPal login.
      Jul 10
  • New / Product XVrn30
    Some would say things are worth what you are willing to pay. Free things aren't valuable.
    Jul 10 0