Bernie has 3 houses and makes millions, but like, socialism for the rest of you pleaseFeb 25
- Snapchat 🦄UnicornThe article says he has a net worth of $700,000. That’s pretty low for a working 77 year old and very low compared to most politicians.
- Microsoft BarFooNo, he won’t. As a sitting Senator, his salary is $174,000. As a retired Senator, his pension is calculated based on number of years served, and the average salary of the highest 3-year consecutive salary (which would be $174k, since he would have earned this same salary for many years in a row), and cannot go above 80% of that.
So his max would be 80% of 174k, or $139k. He’s been in Congress for long enough that I would expect that he would hit the max.Feb 255
- OP you are so dumb and get fed into whatever bullshit that Fox news shows. Just look up Koch brothers and see how much they own. This is peanuts. Even Fox news reporters like Tucker Carson are worth more.
- People think that these benefits won’t help them. It’s just there for the leechers. This is a system for society as a whole. Poor, rich, white, black, homeless, etc. does a person not have a right to medical attention if they have been shot? Or do we only treat working shot people? Does every child not have a right to be educated? Or only children whose parents work have a right to an eduction?
Public schools are a socialist program. Yes, you can argue they may be poorly implemented, sure. But the IDEA that EVERY child should have access to an education is a good socialist idea.
Why doesn’t every person have the right to proper medical care? It’s 2020 for gods sake. We have built a space station. We can, literally, shoot a rocket anywhere on the face of the planet. But na, our limitations as a human society is providing proper medical attention to humans as a whole. Pfft, I fail to believe it.
- @intel “Preventative care hasn’t actually been shown to lower costs; it actually increases costs.”
Jesus christ, maybe you do some basic reading before having an opinion on public health policy.
Preventative care is a cornerstone of universal healthcare precisely because it sharply reduces costs, instead of letting a health issue snowball to needing drastic intervention like intensive care or surgery.
A lot of illness can be solved with cheap meds or lifestyle change before it gets serious.
- You think paying someone $200/hour to tell the obese guy he’s obese will change outcomes? Have you met an obese person? Does anyone not know being obese is bad for your health? You will then put him on meds that don’t improve his health, though they might prolong his life a bit. How does that not increase costs?
Vast majority of healthcare costs are for issues in the final two years of life and long-term issues like diabetes and drug abuse. Preventative care will lead to higher costs in both of those situations.
The only preventive measures proven effective are vaccines, which are broadly available and cheap without having a government bureaucracy to pay.
- If the VAST majority of medical claims are what you say. Then why don’t we, as a society, decide that if you are over, let’s say, 90 years old. Well just kindly let you pass. Ya know, so we can save some money.
I think the vast majority of costs are the fact that 75% of Americans are either overweight or obese, let’s prevent that from happening first and give people proper access to doctors.
Kind of a pain to get blood work done and it’s 800 out of pocket. God forbid you need real work done.
- Free preventative care, you fools? Do you realize it's not free, it comes from the taxes taken from the very same people who get those freebies. Minus the money that's burnt by the inefficient bureaucracy. Why not cut the middleman bureaucracy? Haven't you learnt to think logically? There's no free lunch. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE - internalize that. There are free market methods to bring down the costs of preventative healthcare - educate yourself on those and let's pursue them.
We must reduce wasteful taxes burnt by incompetent bureaucracy, and fix the system to avoid monopolies. I agree with you there. Amazon is an example of a recent rising monopoly.
But the solution is NOT government control of markets, no. I challenge you to support better solutions and be more thoughtful about this. The people shouting the loudest today are shouting for socialism naively without understanding the systemic effects of the proposals they advocate. We need to do better. Even things like schooling and post offices - do you realize it causes inflation every time the government prints money to spend on these welfare programs? You make basic things like food inaccessible to some people each time you do that, and drop a ton of people below poverty line each time you argue in favor of it. Have you ever thought of the systemic costs you incur each time you advocate for a state sponsored welfare program? Money doesn't grow on trees - it's often taken from the blood and sweat and sometimes lives of people that you crush in order to feel woke about your do-goody-green policies. Are you going to answer them for your policy blunders? Or are you going to wear the sanctimonious mask of virtue signalling leftists and ignore the ramifications of your stupidity?
- You know what keeps all of those people in poverty? It isn’t inflation my dude. It’s inaccessibility to schools, medicine and a path forward. It’s funny how this country can afford to have 5 people to have much wealth as the bottom 160m, but it can’t afford to provide these people with education and Medicine.
It’s funny how the wealthy got bailed out AND at the same time have gotten richer in the past decade but the average (and below average) persons wages have stagnated. Don’t be blind because we are in a field that pays well. The average income for a family of four is 60k for middle class family, now what about low class?
Funny how 1% own 90% of the market and we can afford that statistic but we can’t afford to fix infrastructure, medicine and education for everyone. It’s like a TON of wealth is trapped somewhere and we can access it.
Allllllll of this is socialism’s problem, ugh this ugly word that just wont go away. The free market, please the free market!! Someone save it. South of the border it’s gun rights, north it’s free market vs socialism. Think rich people argue of this same BS? Or they just too rich to even care.
- So you want to lynch 5 people? Or rather steal from them? Have you no dignity? You think people cannot take responsibility for their life's success and we have to resort to stealing from 5 people as an institution policy? Is that what we've come to? It's not a zero sum pie that you have to go after the 1% you fool. Hopefully you will learn from this fable
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be that, in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Then a representative of the NAAGB (The National Association for the Advancement of Green Bugs) shows up on Nightline and charges the ant with "green bias", and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism. Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green." Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS Evening News to tell a concerned Dan Rather that they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the Reagan summers, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures of the 80's." Richard Gephardt exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share". Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-greenism Act," retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent welfare moms who can only hear cases on Thursday afternoon between 1:30 and 3:00 PM when there are no talk shows scheduled.
The ant loses the case.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he's in -- which just happens to be the ant's old house -- crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV, which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant's food, they are showing Bill Clinton standing before a wildly applauding group of Democrats announcing that a new era of "fairness" has dawned in America.
- We understand preventative care comes from taxes, but so do 50k emergency visit costs when problems aren’t addressed thanks to Reagan era legislation that nobody goes without ER assistance if they seek it, money or not.
Does it not make sense to address these things when they cost $200 instead of thousands?
- I don’t want to lynch anyone. I want people to realize that we CAN afford this and that we CAN have these things and realize why we can’t. We can end world hunger, there is enough food to feed everyone on the planet. World hunger isn’t a food shortage problem. It’s a logistical and political problem. SAME thing here, proper healthcare and education for all isn’t an expense problem or an access problem. It’s a political and corporation problem. The sooner we realize this the sooner we stop bickering amongst ourselves.
- You’re an engineer at Uber and you make less than $174k/yr?
You know houses in Vermont are much cheaper than houses in SF right? Most senators have to have homes in both DC and their home state. Bernie also happens to have a vacation home.
- You don’t include book royalties in his tc. That isn’t part of his job. That’d be like including investment gains in your tc. You’re free to write a book in your spare time too.
His tc (his income from his job) is $174k. Even if it’s more, who cares?
ETA for the bozo below me (Wtf is Druva?). Total comp is total comp from a JOB, as has been defined here on Blind for years and years. Not your annual income. That’s why when people talk about TC on Blind they don’t add in their fucking stock portfolio growth or the growth from a vacation home they bought 10 years ago.
My god these people will stop at nothing to prove their stupidity.
- If Bernie posted on Blind with:
TC: $1 million
He would have been laughed off this app for good. He would be an L3 if we had Levels.fyi for politicians.
- Here’s my point: it’s extremely hypocritical for him to build his entire brand off of demonizing the rich “millionaires and billionaires” and people who “have to much” while himself being rich. He literally gets his followers to believe that rich people are evil. But then owns 3 homes and makes a lot of money for himself. Hypocrisy is my point. I used an accurate statistic from a fox article to prove that.
- Yes another post confusing socialism with social democracy. Putin is working hard on Blind
- Him owning homes and making millions has no influence on my opinion of him or his policies. As others have said, his tax scheme would also apply to himself.
- 1) you were blind to the fact that Bernie did not personally pay for the jet travel as you said he did
2) carbon offsets do not actually offset carbon anywhere
3) the government did not press charges, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t unethical
4) none of the crimes thus far have had anything to do with the administration, they were all by individuals committing the equivalent of jaywalking as citizens up to 12 years ago.
- Big Switch Networks lgWY67I am from China. Socialism is bad.
It is really a slippery slope. First they claim social goods should be public and run by the government, so they take over health care systems. Then utilities, natural resource productions, college, telecommunications. Next steps big banks and insurance, food production. Before you know, state runs everything and it is not that hard to argue these are public goods. Then, welcome to communism.
- I’m actually surprised the Fox News article is actually well written and felt unbiased. The title is clear clickbait and most likely they know their viewership only reads that, but the content itself was on point. Probably not what they intended, but it made me like Bernie even more.