Best company for long term payoff?

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Jan 3 48 Comments

If you wanted to dig your heels in and climb the ladder at a company for 10+ years, which would you guess would be the most rewarding in terms of TC and the quality of your exit opportunities (assuming you can survive said companies culture and expectations over that time frame)?

Tried to represent big tech with G/FB, good startups with Airbnb, Uber, Quora and quant trading firms with Two Sigma and De Shaw for diversity of companies.

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TOP 48 Comments
  • Amazon aSoL84
    Wtf is de shaw
    Jan 3 6
    • Amazon aSoL84
      You must have a lot of free time typing that
      Jan 3
    • New complow
      Was fun, not gonna lie
      Jan 3
    • New TKpg12
      Haha, Amazon employee hasn't heard of DE Shaw then gets likes - interesting indicator of the experience/age on Blind.
      Jan 3
    • Amazon aSoL84
      Do you know all the companies your ceo has worked in? Like why the fuck should I know that. Idgaf
      Jan 3
    • GoodRx BobAxelrod
      Does De Shaw still check your SAT scores on their job app? They certainly did back in the day.
      Jan 3
  • Salesforce Hdhshjaj
    Salesforce is missing
    Jan 3 1
  • Google
    Ybmza

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    Ybmzamore
    Perfect example of looking in the rear view mirror and projecting it forward 10years. G/FB killed it last decade, quite likely they will do just fine, but not kill it the next 10. My bet would be on little known or very fast growing *profit making* startups. Sorry, I am quite bearish Uber category of unicorns mentioned here until they can demonstrate profitable market growth.
    Jan 3 4
    • LinkedIn
      pKlN88

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      pKlN88more
      Hmm but airbnb fits what you said
      Jan 3
    • SEVENROOMS / Eng DEADB33F
      To be fair, Microsoft seems to have avoided the fate of IBM and pretty much every Enterprise company. I envision they will be a solid bet, while maybe not the best, for years.
      Jan 3
    • Google
      Ybmza

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      Ybmzamore
      @pKIN88: disagree. All these companies have exploited lax regulations to grow and have more downside than upside
      Jan 3
    • Google
      Ybmza

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      Ybmzamore
      @DEADB33F: yes, agree. That's why I said they are likely to do okay, but not be the best in any way.
      Jan 3
  • Collective Health dancindark
    What level do you have to be at at google for them to even allow you to stay for ten years?
    Jan 3 12
    • Microsoft / Eng roxton
      Every company has hierarchy among the teams. Do you think Deepmind & Google+ have the same bar ?
      Jan 4
    • Collective Health AliceP
      Just never thought of it
      Jan 4
    • Google ovBk62
      Yeah and this eliteness difference is reinforced during team matching, internal transfers etc.
      Jan 4
    • Facebook grlx
      What's the percentage of elite teams and so-so teams? Are successful products like Search and Android considered elite? Or is it mainly related to stuff like ML vs web dev
      Jan 4
    • Google ovBk62
      So search, Android are Product Areas. They have hundreds or even thousand engineers. But within these product areas, there are orgs and teams that are considered elite.

      For example ads area isn't really considered prestigious or elite in terms of engineering, but some teams that are/were in ads are considered elite. For example, data infra org which was part of ads is considered elite. It published papers for F1, Shasta, Mesa etc. Most of these teams are pretty small (20-40 people types) but have a ton of L6+ and a bunch of L7s and 8s each, and average level is probably around 5. On the other hand, you'll find many teams in normal ads quality area which are full of 3s and 4s.

      Other elite teams are core infra teams like Tensorflow core, core YouTube video processing, high impact teams in brain, core Spanner, etc.

      In general, teams with high impact, lots of high level engineers to learn from, and lots of work to do are considered elite. People want to work there to learn from the pros and also get promos at the same time (easy to show impact and difficulty, enough L+2 peer reviewers). So these teams can be picky with who they hire. Some of these teams actually interview you even for internal transfers.

      Many other teams will take whoever comes their boat as long as that person doesn't have terrible reviews
      Jan 4
  • Nvidia jammys
    Another ‘only google wins’ poll
    Jan 3 4
    • Facebook dbfsbjy
      OP
      I don’t think Google should even be winning. Of all these options they probably have the slowest promotion velocity so you’d probably be minimizing TC and without reaching higher levels you probably wouldn’t have the same exit opportunities.
      Jan 3
    • Uber 5b
      Then why you put Google as an option? Let’s auto filter it out.
      Jan 3
    • Facebook dbfsbjy
      OP
      In hindsight thought people would’ve put more thought into it but def should’ve excluded google
      Jan 3
    • Tableau Zero Cool
      But the stock has the most certainty
      Jan 3
  • Airbnb Knpf
    The OP says TC is most important. Airbnb pays the most out of the poll options. Also if you plan on staying at a company for ten years then after a certain point your tc will become heavily dependent on refreshers. Airbnb has the best refreshers by far out of those options.
    Jan 3 2
    • Synack
      jsz8njb

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      jsz8njbmore
      But you’re not public yet so hard to know for sure
      Jan 3
    • Tableau Zero Cool
      And they haven't been in the game for 10 years. Plus it's a reduced business. Google is way more stable
      Jan 3
  • Apple woodo
    I see a lot of optimists who think that FB or Uber will be around in 10 years. Ok :)
    Jan 3 1
    • Sephora drhomesty
      Not even sure if apple will be around past these companies given the current trajectory.
      Jan 3
  • New / Eng MSFTE
    People by defaul vote Google when they see a poll on Blind.
    Jan 3 1
    • Amazon ChiknTikka
      Yup. Exit opportunities from Amazon generally better than Google but not even in poll. Obviously Google better in TC at junior levels.
      Jan 3
  • Amazon / Eng
    yoevstc

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    yoevstcmore
    Funny amazon is not even mentioned.! Lmao doesn't surprise me either.!
    Jan 3 0
  • Apple Flipcoin
    Apple
    Jan 3 0
  • Facebook public2
    The one at which you enjoy the most and do the best work
    Jan 3 0
  • Two Sigma / Eng greety
    I think this is likely to be mostly a function of company size / growth, all these companies are already pretty big.
    Jan 3 0
  • Snapchat
    Jaw$

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    Jaw$more
    Snap. Pin this comment and come back to me in 12 months.
    Jan 5 1
  • New phzt36
    What about Palantir?
    Jan 4 0
  • Cisco Cisco🖥
    Cisco P/E + Dividends mfs
    Jan 3 0
  • Tableau Zero Cool
    Don't do it
    Jan 3 0