Women in Tech

Best company for women

New Tring
Nov 5

Which tech company is most women friendly? By women-friendly, I don't mean WLB friendly.

An ideal company would be where:

1. Lowering the hiring bar is not how diversity is built
2. You don't have to pretend to exhibit attributes that are not natural to you as a person
3. You don't have to worry about growth because of who you are
4. There are several examples of women who have been promoted into senior management roles
5. Company truly believes in inclusion and diversity

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  • New Tring
    OP
    Uber? Really? Please don't troll the poll!!
    Nov 58
    • Bloomberg MSGSlayer
      Too late 😬
      Nov 5
    • New Tring
      OP
      I deserved it for even mentioning the option there!
      Nov 5
    • Dell / R&DDude02
      Why Uber is in the top?
      Nov 5
    • Your fault for putting Uber in the poll OP
      Nov 5
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      VertivcoEng

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      YouTube, American Bureau of Shipping, Facebook
      FastPapuanmore
      Because we have taken a lot of strides in becoming better for everyone in the recent years.
      Nov 5
    • Since the disaster of a year last year Uber’s taken a complete 180 and trying as hard as possible to correct for these issues, and is well possible to correct to beyond peers in the same regard. I guess it’s understandable that there’s lingering perception issues, but @op are you actually looking for progress and a good place to work or just trolling yourself?
      Nov 5
    • Everything’s fixed now OP! The problems are over. It’s your perceptions that are the problem now
      Nov 6
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      VertivcoEng

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      YouTube, American Bureau of Shipping, Facebook
      FastPapuanmore
      Google is actually worse than Uber. Seen the news?
      Nov 6
  • OpenText / EngFB stock
    Pinterest/Quora
    Nov 51
    • Facebook dhzbsjjxh
      Curious to know what percentage of Pinterest user base is male anywhow.
      Nov 5
  • Facebook Hello worl
    You're just going to end up capturing a distribution of blind users employers. People will be biased towards voting for their own employers unless the employer is particularly bad for women.
    Nov 56
    • Guidewire Lahlah
      It’s data from the source. Biased? This is asking for opinions 🙂
      Nov 5
    • Facebook Hello worl
      Yes... sample bias. It's a poor mechanism for collecting data.
      Nov 5
    • New Tring
      OP
      How about dividing each number by #of users from that company on blind?
      Nov 5
    • Facebook Hello worl
      Tring that could help, but it's hard to know what exactly the right adjustment would be.

      Eg I might be tempted to vote for fb, Google, and etsy because I've worked at fb and because I'm aware of google and etsy being pretty liberal through friends... And not voting for any others because I have no connection to or knowledge of them. My lack of knowledge doesn't mean they're less women-friendly than fb, goog, or etsy, just that I know of fb/goog/etsy as being "friendly"

      Other than maybe Uber, most tech companies are sort of liberal companies. You could adjust for size or blind presence, or number of voters from each company if you had it, but the breadth of reputation comes from more than just size. A company like etsy is in a lot of peoples lives broadly, probably beyond their size. Size could be measured by number of customers, revenue, number of employees, etc.

      I think Goldman sachs actually has a decent culture for women in technology, but most of us aren't customers of gs and won't simply be thinking of them as some liberal feminist haven due to their line of business. I know a number of women working in relatively senior tech positions at gs, and I think it's partly driven by them being a client facing business with a diverse customer base.

      There is probably data out there on gender and minority representation in senior positions in a lot of these companies. Some companies work hard at it. You can read public remarks from their ceos and diversity officers. Specific research like that may be more valuable and will be more likely to hit on your particular concerns.

      Eg you mention concern about companies that hit diversity targets by lowering the bar, and of course you don't want to be seen as having been hired at a lower standard. fb has stated publicly that their approach to diversity is to ensure they have *considered* a diverse candidate for any role. To always choose the best candidate among the ones they've interviewed, but to make sure they have at least made the effort to ensure they interviewed candidates who come from another background or who might otherwise not have applied.
      Nov 5
    • Microsoft / Product@zzz
      Uber will still win the popular vote.
      Nov 5
    • Facebook Hello worl
      Zzz I would certainly expect them to
      Nov 5
  • Intel / Other
    ilamo

    IntelOther

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    Google
    ilamomore
    Intel
    Nov 51
    • Amazon nullval
      True, but Intel has more women than other companies, so if there's any advantage at all of being a minority, it might be proportionately lower.
      Nov 5
  • Apple bqdp
    Any company that truly believes in inclusion and diversity but doesn’t lower the hiring bar will be accused of being non-inclusive. This is because the large majority of engineers in the US are men, so a company that matches the general population of engineers will also be overwhelmingly men. Therefore to reach diversity goals with higher ratios of women to men, companies *have to* preferentially hire women.
    Nov 52
    • Intel / EngOliv
      I think there seems to be a misunderstanding. What companies are trying to do is to have a PROPORTIONAL representation of available engineering population. This means that if 20% of all the engineers are women, the companies are aiming to have women in 20% of their engineering roles. It is interesting that male engineers think that this approach means reducing the criteria. Actually, the criteria were reduced for decades when 20% of population was automatically disregarded ( or made feel unwelcome and was pushed out ) just because they were women. This is the reason that in the USA there is a quarter million engineers not working in engineering just because they are women( see HBR, 2008)
      Nov 12
    • Apple bqdp
      I don’t think proportional representation means reducing the criteria. I also don’t think proportional representation is what most people people are talking about when they’re talking about inclusive hiring.
      Nov 13
  • Twitter 0nMyWay
    No twitter?
    Nov 52
    • Amazon capsLock02
      twitter takes a leading role at diversity and inclusion for sure. So women will also be included? How does the leadership percentage look like tho?
      Nov 5
    • Twitter 0nMyWay
      60-70% of all managers are female. Many c level execs are female too.
      Nov 5
  • Intuit / EngGutgut
    Intuit
    Nov 52
    • Intuit Buck wheat
      Definitely nope
      Nov 5
    • Intuit Okhvre
      I second that... most definitely nope
      Nov 5
  • Cruise Automation JyHB25
    Stitch fix and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
    Nov 50
  • Expedia / EngLOWPay
    Salesforce
    Nov 50
  • IBM / Engtrcy
    IBM

    Not because I am an employee, but because of the of what I have personally seen and this is one thing that I actually like about IBM.
    You have people who are openly LGBT, people who are heavily pregnant and working because they are working remote. Being a woman and one thing that holds very dear is pregnant girls not having to worry about their jobs. In Europe and other places across the world the female workforce gets maternity leaves, not in US.
    One thing that is very much good with IBM is they very much respect your personal life. The work life balance is good and pay is decent.

    1. Lowering the hiring bar is not how diversity is built
    >>> I agree IBM is not known for having a very high hiring bar - but they have one of the most diverse crowd ever.
    2. You don't have to pretend to exhibit attributes that are not natural to you as a person
    >>> 75% the people work remote - no one knows about your gender/race/sexual identity or preference
    3. You don't have to worry about growth because of who you are
    >>> Again would refer to easy work from home policy - allowing your review based only on the work, not on the person.
    4. There are several examples of women who have been promoted into senior management roles
    >>> CEO - Ginny
    5. Company truly believes in inclusion and diversity
    >>> Has one of the most diverse crowd ever - located across the globe and even in US - the team member have no relation to their color of their skin or sexual preference or gender identity or any other for that matter.

    https://www-03.ibm.com/employment/inclusion/downloads/empowering_women_in_tech_ibm_case_study.pdf
    Nov 210
  • Prosper
    Dadahound

    Prosper

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    Tall white dude
    Dadahoundmore
    This vote is obviously rigged because Uber is winning 🤣
    Nov 110
  • Microsoft Fggg
    Definitely not Microsoft. It is still a boys club. I hope others aren’t worse...
    Nov 50
  • Microsoft Wieowwhwho
    Good question 👍🏼
    Nov 50
  • Google zFsy57
    Airbnb
    Nov 52
    • New Tring
      OP
      Really?
      Nov 5
    • Airbnb 112358132!
      We have a lot of junior female engineers, senior female engineers or managers are scarce.
      Nov 7
  • Microsoft fu.ms
    Based on just the point number 1, Microsoft should be at the bottom
    Nov 220
  • Lyft rpMF46
    Lyft needs to be higher up on this.
    Nov 210
  • Facebook dhzbsjjxh
    How the hell did Uber top this? I

    On my viewpoint for fb, fb had a decent amount of woman engineers but I did feel like hiring bar got lowered for them anecdotally based from peers from school, and there are still few in engineering management in my experience as well.
    Nov 50
  • Guidewire Lahlah
    Oh. Best company for women, as in one single best.... I didn’t read it that way originally.
    Nov 50
  • Google zFsy57
    Y'all would think it would be Bumble right?
    Nov 50
  • Pinterest MxjP06
    Pinterest
    Nov 50
  • Guidewire Lahlah
    Guidewire
    Nov 50
  • Adobe Photoshop
    Adobe
    Nov 50

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