Better to quit or resign

New / Eng suraa
Sep 23, 2018 21 Comments

Hi,

My gf is having issues with her company. It’s one of the most toxic workplace I’ve seen. They screwed up her h1b rfe application deadline, meaning it will now get rejected. They are asking her to take only 2 weeks PTO for our marriage. Saying if you take a day more we’ll fire you. (I mean who says that.)
The manager is encouraging her to resign. Giving her advice to quit.
He also put her on performance review. All this started after requesting for a PTO.
It seems like they’re trying to get rid off her.
It sucks, this was her first job, getting such a shitty company. She’s in depression, crying almost every time we talk about this.
Any suggestions as to, if resigning is better or them firing her and how does it affect her future prospects. This is in Pittsburgh, PA.

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TOP 21 Comments
  • Microsoft / Mgmt Typescript
    Wow this feels like my gfs experience at Uber :)
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Amazon atmw35
    She's likely being managed out. This is a kinda half kind/mainly shitty performance Management process where the decision to let the person go has already been made, and it just takes time for the paperwork to happen. Managers will also use this process to give employees more time to find a place to land. Once it starts the coaching period is largely over, and its a question of when the person is let go. She should be looking for a job as much as she can, her boss will likely allow plenty of time off for this purpose.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • AbbVie iRKx70
    She should find a new job quickly and leave if possible, no point being unhappy. I’m sure she’ll find something new. Please tell her to steer clear of depression because of this... it’s not worth it. Best of luck!!
    Sep 23, 2018 2
    • New / Eng suraa
      OP
      She is looking for new jobs. But it’s kinda the last few months of the year ( a difficult time to get a job)
      Also, being on visa puts a lot of restrictions on a jump.
      Mainly, question is: which is more beneficial, resigning or being fired.
      Coz being fired seems inevitable based on their behaviour.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • YapStone Warrior17
      I wud say its easier to get hired at this time since most openings would be frozen up if not hired so companies look to fill it up
      Sep 23, 2018
  • NAVEX Global HollaBackG
    If she waits and lets them fire her, she may get a severance package. But it’s not worth it if she’s completely miserable - she should probably just leave.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • NBCUniversal / Product Nkls
    For her mental health it would be better to resign.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Google s89
    If your gf has the proofs about firing her if she takes more than 2 weeks pto, consult an attorney. Employers are not supposed to threater employs like this
    Sep 23, 2018 3
    • New / Eng suraa
      OP
      The conversation went like this:

      Him: If you say you’ll take 2 weeks (he had said verbally that 4 weeks was ok earlier) and take even a day more, we’ll fire you.
      If you’re stuck in immigration, we won’t care and we won’t help you, we’ll still fire you.
      Her: That’s alright.
      Him: No, don’t be nice, this is not alright.
      You should say it sucks, I think you should resign and go and enjoy your wedding.

      How can one prove a conversation happened?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Juniper Poco Loco
      Go to HR and document that conversation. Make their life impossible. Seek advice from an employment attorney. The company will get scared and she'll likely get her way. These companies are deathly afraid of bad publicity! Truly! I've seen exact cases where it was elevated with HR and the employee got what they wanted..even a promotion to VP! HR could fix the Visa app and work around this manager see douche.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Google s89
      And ur gf havent spoke to hr yet?
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Amazon Done
    Can you support her financially if she leaves, if yes, just let her quit or at least start looking for a new job asap.
    Sep 23, 2018 2
    • New / Eng suraa
      OP
      Point is too many things at play. We’re getting married in India in December. She’s on visa so the clock starts ticking once she quits (60 days to find a job)
      This is the last few months of the year, so hiring is usually slower.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Uber
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      Seriously?
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      Not really, I started looking at this time of the year few years back, got offers around thanksgiving. All the big companies was hiring. She can start talking with some recruiters about timeline headcount etc
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Reddit Rta42s
    Needs to stay on the job for as long as possible due to visa issues. Should not quit, instead force them to fire if they don’t want her. As others said try to document everything by putting things on email. File complaint with HR to force them to treat her better. All of the above are supposed to buy her time till she can find another job.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Amazon MAGA!?
    Get evidence on paper. Send out email summary to her manager of what was communicated verbally.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Substrate
    It seems they are not going to fire her until after the vacation. So don't resign. She should go until they fire or she finds a new job.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Oath / Eng [object
    You have any of that on paper? Sounds like you can sue them now.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Juniper Poco Loco
    Depending on her mental strength, she can either apply elsewhere and put up with it or definitely quit if she's in hysterics. She should consider going to her boss and ask for a package to be let go...this could send enough signal to motivate them to move on this. Btw, jobs are plentiful right now. You have it all wrong that there aren't jobs until the end of the year. The employment market has never been hotter. Amazon, for instance, is hiring an army. Find yourself official company recruiters on LinkedIn and leather them DAILY until you get a phone screen. Works every time!
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Zulily 🐕dog
    Talk to a lawyer and see your options - I am sure they can figure out something creative - like FMLA. You get that and no one can touch you ..
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Collective Health / Eng FaceAnd
    Definitely don’t quit. She needs to stay at the job as long as possible before the clock starts ticking.
    Sep 23, 2018 0

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