Tech IndustryOct 17, 2018
GoogleJLpc45

Bird vs Google

I'm a senior IC at Google. My current work is impactful, but I'm not in love with it. I recently was contacted by Bird, interviewed, and got an offer for a senior position. Worth the switch? Comp is less (but not terribly) now but could be more if Bird multiplies its current valuations (they'd have to 3x+ to $6B to break even; anything over and Bird would be better). Kinda tired of big companies, but worried about culture and risk of Bird.

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Airbnb Uns Oct 17, 2018

Dear god no don’t be an idiot

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 18, 2018

this response is succinct and well-liked but not particularly constructive/helpful. what would be: why you think it'd be idiotic. I'd like to know :)

Verizon iSnoopy Oct 17, 2018

Dude, don’t do it. Bird just wants to make a PR move of “Ex-Googlers work for us... look how hot we are”. If I’m you I wouldn’t take the risk.

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

ex-googlers already work there

Verizon iSnoopy Oct 17, 2018

Well, in that case then you have ways to do some due diligence. Talk to them and understand their overall morale. And I can understand what you are going through. After a certain point sitting through 10 meetings to push a line of code could get tedious. Best of luck!

Apple SamPam Oct 17, 2018

Can't you switch teams within Google? If you don't like your job, don't stay.

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

yeah looking into that as well

Microsoft erekto Oct 17, 2018

you really think a scooter company is going to be that successful?

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

possible, not sure if probable

Facebook 😂 lmao Oct 17, 2018

jesus TC would be less even with 3x!? why would you even consider it

Google hrbdj Oct 17, 2018

Because google will never 3x. YOLO.

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

actually Google is 6x from when I started

Tencent TdbT58 Oct 17, 2018

Taking risk will bring you financial freedom

Uber ——— Oct 17, 2018

How is tencent

Airbnb Gazron Oct 18, 2018

Or financial ruin

Google prodaccess Oct 17, 2018

Seriously? Why on Earth would you take a pay cut to go from Google to Bird? Really? Are you on a PIP or expecting a Needs Improvement in perf?

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

exceeding at a >5 level, actually

Google WeAllEat Oct 17, 2018

Its a company with competitors which means it will be a lot of pressure to deliver which means you will sacrifice on quality and fighting fires which means you will burn out quickly. Not worth it.

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 18, 2018

noted (but I'm hard to burn)

Avigilon pasimeena Oct 17, 2018

Wtf is bird?

LinkedIn Gill Bates Oct 17, 2018

Electric scooter company, they're all over the place in LA.

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

they're actually in 50+ cities in US, 5 internationally (and ironically not yet in LA proper)

Google Clck58 Oct 17, 2018

It’s not as terrible an idea as other comments make it look like, but 3x to make comp even is crazy. Their package needs to be much better for you to consider them.

Google JLpc45 OP Oct 17, 2018

agreed, just a little worried I'll be new AND one of the highest paid folks in the room

Google Clck58 Oct 17, 2018

It’s way worse to be one of the smarter ones and get paid less. Don’t undersell yourself.