SeattleApr 21, 2018
AmazonvhCL74

Buying house, RSU income

Hey guys, I'm planning on buying a house in Seattle area. I've talked to a few lenders, they told me they will only look at my base salary, they don't count RSU(which is significant part of compensation) as regular income. I'm wondering if you guys found a lender can count RSU as income? Comment or PM me thanks!

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Apple AppleyMan Apr 21, 2018

That is ridiculous! I think the lender needs to be educated in tech compensation. Can you imagine a banker only being evaluated on their base salary?

Amazon sarcasticg Apr 21, 2018

You mean lender?

Apple AppleyMan Apr 21, 2018

Yep. Updated my response!

Glassdoor psncbc Apr 21, 2018

The lender is doing the right thing. Rsus are volatile. The company can drop half its value in a year if something goes south. Trust the lender, use only your base to get a home loan. Use the vested rsus for downpayment or pay down later only. Recession starts when doing dumb decisions like giving loan off rsu income.

Facebook public Apr 21, 2018

Yep, there is going to be a wild disaster when amzn stops rising...

Lyft nurple Apr 21, 2018

Amen

Apple AppleyMan Apr 21, 2018

You could also get fired! All lending has risk. Discounting RSUs from public companies is dumb!

Square SQ Apr 21, 2018

Yeah, because they totally can't half in value before you can sell them.

Apple AppleyMan Apr 21, 2018

They can also go up in value so.....

Twitter thesunrise Apr 21, 2018

You need at least two years of tax income returns with RSU income on them for it to be counted.

Cisco LKWt46 Apr 21, 2018

Wells Fargo counts RSU as income. You can talk to Kelly Dodd @Wells Fargo at Bellevue

Amazon wwqwwq Apr 21, 2018

I would get the maximum loan based on your base salary.

Amazon Slackle Apr 21, 2018

That means pretty much no houses in seattle given amazon’s base.

Amazon Slackle Apr 21, 2018

1) have multiple years of data 2) put down 20% 3) I’ve gotten 4 loans and all accepted the RSU’s - but I had a long history to show and backup funds to use.

Daimler BuildItRed Apr 21, 2018

Irrespective of the lender, for your own good don't consider RSUs. If economy tanks, which could happen for any reason, you won't be able to pay your loan and might even default. Do not rely on the bank, from history, they've approved many bad loans and buyers paid the cost. I've seen this happen to a lot of people, even though they know the economy gets better they couldn't make payments at that moment because the RSUs are worth 90% less

Facebook veronica& Apr 21, 2018

But you could also get fired or laid off and lose your base salary, how are RSUs that different

Daimler BuildItRed Apr 21, 2018

@veronica. Based on what the OP described I believe it is easy to get the base salary in any case by finding a new job but RSUs are very volatile compared to Base salary so relying on them is bad. It is not guaranteed that in case of a job loss one could get similar amount of RSUs

Twitch videoIsLif Apr 21, 2018

Sell your vested RSUs and have that cash in your bank accounts for few months.. they can't ignore someone with huge bank balance..

Google tcCd20 Apr 21, 2018

Rsu are over 4 years, mortgage is 30. Banks want to see predictable income to justify the loan. When I shopped around they wanted 2 years worth of refreshers data to count it as recurring income

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Kite-flyer Dec 6, 2019

Salary is bimonthly - there is no guarantee , one would would be employed next month.