Compensation

Calculating Total Comp

Akamai Technologies / EngJfcv74
Mar 13

How do you calculate total comp? How do you factor in vesting RSUs? Do you base it on prior years actual income or current years potential income (with the assumption that the stock stays pretty flat)?

I've always just content base salary + potential bonus paid at 100%, but I'm now making substantial amounts of money from multiple successive refreshers vesting out.

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  • Groupon STCO30
    Total comp is the value on your W2. So for last year, you can reference your W2. For this year, it is however you feel it is most accurate to calculate it. If I’m calculating it for a recruiter, I may exaggerate a bit by using full bonus percentage and use 52 week high stock price for calculating vesting stock.
    Mar 139
    • SAP
      marchiear

      SAP

      BIO
      I climb the stairs every morning. The elevator is for Democrats!
      marchiearmore
      Why do you calculate your TC for a recruiter?
      Mar 13
    • Groupon STCO30
      When they ask what your current tc is.
      Mar 13
    • SAP
      marchiear

      SAP

      BIO
      I climb the stairs every morning. The elevator is for Democrats!
      marchiearmore
      Oh, I’m never telling that anyone. Bad negotiations follow from bringing your number first. How do others handle this question?
      Mar 13
    • Akamai Technologies / EngJfcv74
      OP
      Obviously you never tell them what you're making now (which is also illegal to ask in California I believe), I tell them a number above what I would be happy to take, so if I want $200K I'm going to ask for like $227K. I also make sure that vesting stock and expected bonus (within 90 days) are included in any discussion about sign on bonus (that is, I expect all of that PLUS additional otherwise I'm losing money). I also let them know roughly the value of any RSUs I'm otherwise leaving behind with the expectation that they will ~match that with similar RSUs.
      Mar 13
    • SAP
      marchiear

      SAP

      BIO
      I climb the stairs every morning. The elevator is for Democrats!
      marchiearmore
      That is exactly what you should do after you heard their offer. Line item discussions and zeroing out on anything you leave on the table at your earlier employer
      Mar 13
    • Akamai Technologies / EngJfcv74
      OP
      I do it up front, I don't have time to waste with interviewing for companies that can't afford me. I am admittedly at the very high end of salary for my role in the market.
      Mar 13
    • SAP
      marchiear

      SAP

      BIO
      I climb the stairs every morning. The elevator is for Democrats!
      marchiearmore
      Same here, but I’m not interviewing much, very selective. What’s your TC?
      Mar 13
    • Akamai Technologies / EngJfcv74
      OP
      Currently seeking $310K
      Mar 13
    • SAP
      marchiear

      SAP

      BIO
      I climb the stairs every morning. The elevator is for Democrats!
      marchiearmore
      Good luck!
      Mar 13
  • The TC of an offer needs to be calculated based on the stock value at the time you received them.

    I see that fallacy all the time with Google or other techs that went up a lot. Your TC is not the value of the stocks today, they were when you received!!!
    Mar 133
    • CenturyLink / Sales✌️✌️
      Well, that would be your offer TC, clearly not your TC. If you get 100 RSUs vesting a year, you are literally being compensated by the value of the stock the year you receive them.
      Mar 13
    • You are being compensated by the fluctuations of the market...
      Mar 13
    • CenturyLink / Sales✌️✌️
      Semantics
      Mar 13
  • Amazon awssdm
    Some people measure the length, but some look at girth. There really isn’t a single answer
    Mar 130
  • SAP 827hshs
    Do companies ask you to submit current employer’s pay slip to verify your current TC is what you have told them during offer stage ? Is it okay to state current TC 30k-50k more than what you actually make to negotiate the offer well ?
    Mar 131
    • Akamai Technologies / EngJfcv74
      OP
      It isn't legal to ask for current salary in California. I would never give a company by W-2. I state above the salary I want for the job I'm applying for, not the salary or job I have.
      Mar 13

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