Can hiring be transparent?

Hi, I recently interviewed at Microsoft event, I did have 4 rounds. All of them went pretty good and the interviewers were kind of positive and in the last round they mentioned what level they would like to have me in at Microsoft. It was so promising, but got a reject mail next day. Not sure what went wrong and recruiter is not disclosing the feedbacks. I am super depressed as I prepared a lot. I did understand the Ctci book and solved over 300 questions in leetcode. Any suggestions fesdbacks are welcomed. Thanks in advance.

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Google n saltella Aug 5, 2017

too risky, legally

Facebook NotMario Aug 5, 2017

This. MSFT is a company, not a school, they gain nothing but legal liability by giving you feedback

Cisco Joey OP Aug 5, 2017

Risky?

Nvidia JtPG37 Aug 5, 2017

Rejections can be for so many reasons despite good interviews. It's best to let it go and move on.

Cisco Joey OP Aug 5, 2017

Thanks, but I wish I had a feedback form hr So that i can work on them.

Microsoft reset Aug 5, 2017

If you're open to sharing a bit more about the questions / responses, we might be able to catch something. If everything felt pretty easy, it could be that you missed the complexity of a question. Or if it just went okay, they might have had a candidate that really stood out. The fact you had 4 usually means at least 2 said hire.

Cisco Joey OP Aug 5, 2017

Most of the questions were from the leetcode and I arrived at optimized solution explaining them starting brute force methods. I don't want to share the questions just because I signed nda. Also, how many yes are needed for a hire ? Is it possible to get rejected even if all said hire ?

Microsoft reset Aug 5, 2017

No need for the actually question. Did you clarify the scenarios before solving them? We're there any behavioral or conversations that might not have gone well? At MS there's an AA "as appropriate" interviewer who makes the ultimate decision. If they are a no hire, the rest of the group would have to work hard to convince them for you to get hired. If one of the other folks say no hire the AA takes their reasoning into consideration and may or may not follow it. One additional complication is that the AA and hiring manager are often different people so there's often a negotiation between the 2 as they review the feedback across the loop and discuss the criticality of any issues and the overall candidate strength.

Yahoo booya123 Aug 5, 2017

posibility is someone gave you a no hire. My friend once shadowed an interview and he thought the candidate did really well but the main interviewer gave a no hire.

Cisco Joey OP Aug 5, 2017

What is shadowing? Sorry if it's basic

Groupon fXtI60 Aug 5, 2017

Shadowing is observing an interview. It's usually for interview training.

LinkedIn goodhombre Aug 5, 2017

Not possible

Microsoft Georgie Aug 5, 2017

I interview candidates and even if a candidate screws up, I try my best to still give them a positive experience. It's entirely possible that you thought a good solution but there were better/optimized solutions. In the end, interview is a hit or miss. You either get the question in 10 mins or you don't get it. I failed interviews at several companies. It's best to move on and try other companies or try us again in 9 months.

Intuit smNe74 Aug 5, 2017

You need to separate interviewing from your raw talent. No interview style is a good way to evaluate a candidate.

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Kels777777 Aug 5, 2017

Legally, a company can't coach or provide feedback as to why someone didn't get hired. When a company does that, they open themselves to a series of risks. Alternatively, if the reason that the company is. It moving forward is something objective such as flaws in your code, I think that a company should explain this or share this with a candidate. Some companies will do this. It's the exception rather than he norm. Somewhere there should've been a interview scorecard, a matrices of the different behaviors they intended to hire for in this role and for the company. The larger the company, the more likely they are to use scorecards. It creates an uniformed hiring experience. Also, when creating an uniformed hiring experience, companies should always close the loop. They need to let the candidate know 1) that they are not moving forward and 2) if they will consider the candidate again after 6-12 months. Closing the loop is seldom done.

SK hynix qOPL45 Aug 5, 2017

As someone who regularly interviews others and being interviewed as a candidate, I'd say it may or may not have anything to do with you. Sometimes you got vetoed by one member because you are not specialized enough or too specialized, sometimes it is because you try to guess something you don't know or didn't even try to do an educated guess, sometimes you are not motivated or you try too hard to impress, sometimes the interviewer tries to eliminate all potential competitors, sometimes you are too expensive and sometimes you are too junior, sometimes they lost the opening or had to save it for an internal transfer, sometimes they just found someone cheaper or better. You will never know the answer because interviewers themselves aren't perfect, and interviews are different from a standardized tests.

Eigen hprem991 Aug 8, 2017

This happened to be last week with Amazon.. they asked 2 questions and team experience. tech question was solved in minimum complexity and well before time ... Not that I had seens the question but was able to get hold of it . Unfortunately folks moved on me for apparent no reason. I was shocked that i wrote back to HR of its even true.. I feel sometimes hiring practice are not fair enough.. Someone might have had an internal reference so moved up with him .