So I've got an offer letter from a prop shop in Chicago and am finishing up team matching with Google (but don't have an offer letter yet; recruiter says it should be in next week pending SVP approval). All in all the compensation will probably be pretty similar but the Google position is in Seattle. I'm somewhat more excited about the project I've matched with at Google although I think the prop shop would be interesting, but from a career perspective will one set me up a lot more than the other down the road? It seems like people in the know know that prop shops have high hiring standards but the Google name is bigger (and the project I matched with has the potential to be decently high profile) Overall comparison: Prop shop: I'm already closer to Chicago, have a lot of friends there, would rather not leave all that behind. More resources for certain hobbies/interests of mine Higher base salary/bonuses Lots of really knowledgeable C++ people (company sends some to CppCon, employs Boost, GCC contributors) Smaller company, easier to advance, make a difference, get individual attention Chicago has a lower cost of living I'll probably learn a lot about lower-level performance stuff since that matters so much to them Google: Seattle has better geography (mountains, trees, ocean, weather, etc.) More of a tech hub than Chicago for later on Potentially higher total compensation although I don't have those numbers yet Google is a more recognizable name on a resume Decently high profile project, will be working with fun hardware stuff, manager has been successful with similar high profile hardware stuff before More potential to move around to different things within the company Prop shop's offer: 130k base 45k guaranteed first year bonus 20k starting bonus 5k moving expenses Google recruiter sounded kinda nervous when I told him that but said he thinks he can match it on total compensation.
what's a prop shop?
If you think you'd make more of an impact and get promoted faster at the prop shop then I think you should go for that. Can always switch back to Google later
What level is google offering you ? They can easily beat 175k in TC even for L3
Pretty sure it's T3 (I only have 1.5 years experience and stumbled a bit on one interview). Previously I was under the impression that T3 salary tops out around 120 but I've since been informed that's not the case (talked to someone who got an offer at 140).
They'll bump up your stock not your salary. Doesn't matter tho since it's all liquid and the stock actually grows :)
Get Google to beat prop firm offer, then get prop firm to beat Google. New grads at JS/2 Sig can make $250k (with signing bonus) so tell them this offer is too low if Google beats it.
I'm gonna try for that general strategy, but this firm also isn't in the same tier as JS/2 Sig
Good luck!
Faced with a similar choice, I went with the smaller company. More chance to actually do something. Plus, If you got into Google once, you can do it again later.
I would choose Google. Your next move will be much better if you jump from Google.
Google. Even if tc is better at the alternative you will make so much more wherever you switch next having the big G on your resume.
Too bad Apple/Amazon exist, Airbnb could've been the big A
Spend a few years at Google, will turn your resume to gold. Then you can work where ever you want.. but just don’t get to comfortable with the perks, they just do not existing outside Google/FB.
Is that really true re:resume effect? Googlers are a dime a dozen in sv
^ No Google comp will be higher. This is a competing offer and the match will be very good.
Lmao according to people at Shaw and Two Sig first year comp is 170-200 and rises to 200-250 in four years (its on reddit). Google pays more given the same perf (since prop comp is bonus based) and in guaranteed money.
Google will pay a good bit more after negotiation. What's the team for prop?
Gonna discuss that with them this coming week. I know the manager's name but haven't met him yet. But I interviewed as a C++ developer so it'll likely involve at least some work on the trading platform (as a guess).