Tech IndustryJul 15, 2019
Googlecuriousing

Chance from quant developer to quant researcher

As quant developer at top fund like Citadel/2S but without math/physics PhD, what’s the chance of internal transfer into the quant researcher position? I have CS master, applied math master, tech industry, passion in finance/math, so now if I started to work at quant developer at Citadel/2S, can I become quant researcher? Basically it’s scary and boring to spend the rest of my life being general software engineer. Would like more new stuff into my career. Thx

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Google xooogler Jul 15, 2019

Am wondering too. Bookmarked.

Yandex jacvld1 Jul 15, 2019

AFAIK it depends on the specific team. I’d try inquire about this during the interviews.

Microsoft aaaaaaa Jul 15, 2019

Have you explicit talked to any of their recruiters? Whenever I've talked to Citadel, for example, they were clear that they could consider me generally for quant dev and research in interviews. As I progressed in interview rounds, they would narrow me into one or the other as they found what was the better skillset fit. I'm actually going to a options mm soon and am doing a month rotation on quant r and quant dev teams as we decide which I like better. I've generally found these types of companies quite accommodating!

Google curiousing OP Jul 15, 2019

Do you have PhD? My whole point is I don’t have PhD, then first being quant dev then internal transfer is roundabout strategy to be quant researcher

Microsoft aaaaaaa Jul 15, 2019

Nah just math and cs deg from undergrad at a top target. But the point is that when I was interviewing with Citadel for a quant research role, they didn't necessarily care about a PhD, just whether I could answer their miscellaneous stats, regression, prob theory questions

Google djjxn Jul 15, 2019

I'm also looking into this. From what I've researched, most quant research have phds and have strong stat calculus background. Interview includes brain teasers and continuous stream of probability problem, or card game problems. You have to keep going, the more u solve the btter. Dunno how many is good enough tho.

Google curiousing OP Jul 15, 2019

Yes most are quant field PhD from top Ivy school. I only have master. Would my hard work/experience make up for it?

Two Sigma mgre Jul 15, 2019

It's possible but not common

Google curiousing OP Jul 15, 2019

If I show skill in computer science + math + finance, would be chance for me? My whole point is I have NO PhD, so first being quant dev is my roundabout strategy. At two sigma, most software engineers won’t show interest in developing math skills to be quant researcher, or simply the bar is so high thus its impossible without PhD?

Goldman Sachs Jiraaya Nov 28, 2020

Any luck? Are you at Citadel now? Any insight please?