Chances of Google matching my unvested RSUs from Apple? ~500k

Apple JpAP87
Nov 7, 2017 26 Comments

Been working at Apple for 4 years. Just got hiring committee approval from Google. The recruiter says I got really positive feedback from the committee. About to go into the team matching phase. I’m ICT4 at Apple with a good chance of ICT5 next year. What are the chances Google will match my unvested RSUs? ~500k

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  • Apple zfeL10
    I’ve always wondered this as well. If companies are not willing to match unvested stock, what is the employee’s incentive to leave? (Other than a salary bump)
    Nov 7, 2017 0
  • Fitbit mahalo2
    Somewhere between 0% to 100 %
    Nov 7, 2017 2
    • Apple / Eng
      PoopLoop

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      PoopLoopmore
      This is incorrect.
      Nov 7, 2017
    • Fitbit mahalo2
      I was second guessing myself, I am sorry, I threw your poop for a loop
      Nov 7, 2017
  • Uber / Eng
    Rqwx5o

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    Rqwx5omore
    Unvested RSUs are a useless metric. Compare only the TC
    Nov 7, 2017 3
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      PoopLoop

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      PoopLoopmore
      Unvested RSUs matter a lot as they will determine how much actual stock you vest each cliff. At least for the first couple years. If You only consider total comp, you start at square one in building up your total unvested value.
      Nov 7, 2017
    • Uber / Eng
      Rqwx5o

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      Rqwx5omore
      As long as you stay one year, it really doesn't matter
      Nov 7, 2017
    • Apple pupl22
      Agree, the unvested rsu doesn’t really matter. You should only look at what your TC will be by the end of next year at Apple or Google. The breakdown doesn’t matter. It is very unlikely that they offer you a total TC less than what you currently get if the feedback was positive.
      Nov 7, 2017
  • Google VPpn24
    Should be fine if you get T5
    Nov 7, 2017 0
  • Google thrown
    It's a reasonable request. I know Google employees who got matched 1M in unvested equity.
    Nov 9, 2017 0
  • Google
    don'tbevil

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    don'tbevilmore
    What is ICT. We have L5, L6
    Nov 7, 2017 3
    • Apple / Eng MacApple
      ICT5 is a large band. It covers T6 and T7 at Google. We have until ICT6. ICT4 is our terminal level. Apple starts at ICT2.
      Nov 7, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng IlIlllllII
      Use levels.fyi to map between Apple and Google
      Nov 8, 2017
    • Apple / Eng
      PoopLoop

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      PoopLoopmore
      I thought levels.fyi was a typo until I decided to google it. Nice resource! https://www.levels.fyi
      Nov 8, 2017
  • Tableau aight
    They can easily match $500k at L4.
    Nov 7, 2017 2
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      PoopLoop

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      PoopLoopmore
      Based on what I’ve read here it seems an ICT4 at Apple would be offered an L5 at Google. Is that accurate?
      Nov 8, 2017
    • Tableau aight
      Not sure about the level mapping--it might be L5, I have no idea about that--but I know of L4 offers that have well-exceeded the $500k number for RSUs. Google seems to be very willing to throw stock at you while being very stingy with the levels.
      Nov 8, 2017
  • Google
    ksss

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    ksssmore
    I have known cases where they matched even 900K unvested stocks for T4. So I wouldn't worry.
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Apple / Eng MacApple
    What is Google’s average and max refreshed RSU for T3, T4 and T5? #google
    Nov 7, 2017 0
  • Apple chipotlefa
    On a side note, how much have to accumulated in last four years. I am on the same boat with unvested around 400 for 3 years
    Nov 7, 2017 0
  • Apple / Eng UuDq31
    Sound like a good decision.. What Total comp did google finally settle? L4 or L5?
    Dec 5, 2017 2
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      EngFluke

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      EngFlukemore
      170k base 50k sign-on 350k GSU and 15% annual bonus. A little over 300k TC first year, 280ish after. A pay cut for sure, but it’s a strategic move for career growth.
      Dec 5, 2017
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      EngFluke

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      L4
      Dec 6, 2017
  • Apple / Eng UuDq31
    What happened ? Did google match or do better?
    Dec 5, 2017 1
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      EngFluke

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      EngFlukemore
      Nope. But I’ll be going anyways.
      Dec 5, 2017
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    • Apple / Eng MacApple
      T6 is ICT 5. That number seems low. I was getting more than 100K as ICT 3.
      Nov 7, 2017