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China luring US scientists & students

Apple KGHP41
Nov 27

While US is busy making intellectual immigrants wait for decades for their greencards AND extreme vetting the fuck out of them, China is slowing luring away top talent. I think is this great for the world US and Europe will get some serious competition. This will only accelerate the Chinese economy meanwhile Europe fights over massive taxes and US is busy throwing out hardworking immigrants. Oh the sweet irony.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/11/27/669645323/china-expands-research-funding-luring-u-s-scientists-and-students

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    • Bro you said the US is becoming a disgusting mulatto nation. That is straight KKK racism right there. If you can’t understand that I honestly feel bad for you. I’m not calling working class white people racist. I grew up white and poor in the deep fucking south I was one of 5 white kids on the god damned football team in high-school. And I heard plenty of people talk like you growing up. Small town small minded. I’ve spent time around poor rich smart dumb people of different races and backgrounds in good neighborhoods and bad ones and most everyone is just trying to get by and be good. Yes desperate people will do desperate things but that is not based on race more on economics and upward mobility.
      Nov 27
    • Microsoft Decius Mus
      Bro, name one successful racially diverse nation? Name a majority black nation you want to live in? Name a majority black high school where you want to send your white children?

      While you’re at it tell us exactly how “diversity is America’s strength”.
      Nov 27
    • I went to a majority black high school in Florida. East side high. The US China and all of Europe are racially diverse prosperous nations.
      Nov 27
    • Microsoft Decius Mus
      US is still 77% White. Canada is the most diverse Western nation at 74% White. Europe is lily White (more than 85% White). China is 92% Han Chinese.

      Try researching before answering next time. Noted that you can’t name a single successful racially diverse nation, yet this is your idea of good. That’s awesome. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
      Nov 27
    • Try again. The US’ extremely diverse metropolitan areas have higher GDPs than most countries. LA is 47% white! Imagine that. And number 2 for GDP in the US.
      Nov 27
    • Calling everyone in China Han Chinese is an over simplification as well.
      Nov 27
    • Microsoft Decius Mus
      Noted that you can’t actually name a single successful racially diverse nation. Not a single nation in Africa or South America that you’d name? Surely your ideology is not just a belief system but something factual, something real.

      US is 77% White.
      https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217

      “By 2017, China's population had reached 1.411 billion, the largest of any country in the world. According to the 2010 census, 91.51% of the population was Han Chinese, and 8.49% were minorities.”
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China
      Nov 27
    • Oracle QgwH15
      @GeySchwfty Nice pic. Taiwan belongs to China!
      Nov 27
    • Microsoft Decius Mus
      ^^ roger that, the 77% White US is your go to answer. Not an actual racially diverse nation. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
      Nov 27
    • Go back to the stormfront chat rooms your racist complaints that America isn’t white enough for you when it’s 77% white will not be tolerated here. I pointed out that the most prosperous parts of the US are also the most diverse. LA for example has a larger GDP than most countries and whites are a minority. So yes we can all get along just fine and be productive. Tons of evidence to back up my claims.
      Nov 27
  • Docker / R&D
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    Global warming and China are the two most serious threats we face in the US.
    Nov 273
    • Apple KGHP41
      OP
      I think you should look inward. The biggest threat to America is Americans.
      Nov 27
    • Amazon Usern@me!
      By that logic, biggest threat that China faces is the US and climate change
      Nov 27
    • Docker / R&D
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      Agree with OP that our own internal polarization takes a seat among the top threats.

      And China’s top threats are similar to ours.
      Nov 27
  • New BFrD16
    It doesn’t take decades to get an h1b, it takes months. You’re off by an order of magnitude. And the vetting definitely isn’t extreme. Where are you getting your information?
    Nov 276
    • Amazon / Eng
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      Hmmm...I think u missed something...Can you read OP’s post again?
      Nov 27
    • Apple KGHP41
      OP
      lol, this is why the west is going to fall. Illiterate much?
      Nov 27
    • New BFrD16
      Nice play, you edited your post to add “for their green cards” and then pretend like I can’t read. Maximum dishonesty and stupidity.

      The west is not falling, it’s growing stronger. In nearly every measure, quality of life in the west is improving. Refugees are not choosing communist countries, they are flooding into western democracies.
      Nov 27
    • Apple KGHP41
      OP
      I did not edit the post. Everyone else read it just fine except you.
      Nov 28
    • New BFrD16
      My mistake for not reading more carefully, but my point still stands. It doesn’t take decades to get an H1B. What China is giving these researchers is a residency permit, which is essentially a work visa, not a green card. Seems like you are intentionally making an apples to oranges comparison here in order to deceive. And then you claim that my actions are why the west is going to fall. 😂

      So you might say “b-b-but some of these researchers are getting permanent residency” and that’s true, but 1) This has been in place for over a decade, so nothing new, and 2) The process is basically the same as an H1B applying for a green card and there is no certainty whether or not it will be granted.

      In short, their immigration system is basically the same as ours.
      Nov 28
    • Apple KGHP41
      OP
      They want to lap up all the international talent. I am making a apples to apples comparison here.
      Nov 28
  • Veracode / Engutaexe
    Who wants to go there and rot in the communist rule
    Nov 272
    • New / Product
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      Project product startups and data. Work well in any but best at intersection.
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      I know someone that works in ai that quit a job in Silicon Valley and went back. Many of her Chinese friends, in 20s are going back.
      Nov 27
    • Oath / Engfat
      Only those that wants to be showered with money.

      Reminds me the Blind post about how Alibaba luring away Amazon employees with 700k TC
      Nov 27
  • Nvidia zVEC05
    We’ll see how that lasts as the social credit system gets rolled out.
    Nov 271
    • Oracle of · Nada
      Educated engineers and researchers are pretty complacent and law abiding (in public, anyway). Won't really affect this group that much. We do write political things more, but that's already been monitored for a long time
      Nov 27
  • Deloitte / Consultant
    ayyylmao

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    Please follow through and go to China. We’ll be just fine here in the States. Peace.
    Nov 270
  • New / Engcout<<user
    US will lose the AI race if they continue to follow conservative policies.

    Hate it or not, the world is open than ever. Anyone can access to high quality education, esp Comp Science.
    Nov 270
  • Salesforce meiwhdyev
    I get South Korea or Japan but why would anyone want to go to China?
    Nov 273
    • Microsoft Decius Mus
      Why not China?
      Nov 27
    • Pollution, lack of food safety regulations, totalitarian government, censorship, high housing costs in Tier 1 cities. You know, minor things.
      Nov 27
    • Oath / Engfat
      Sounds like you never been to China
      Nov 27
  • New insp
    I don't care... Don't wanna live in fascist country. Even with Trump, America is still the land of the free!!!!
    Nov 281
  • Lockheed Martin aaaa459
    So u get tax double since u still need to pay America's income tax. 🤔 TC example?
    Nov 272
    • Uber / EngDgoQ22
      That’s not how taxes work. You only pay difference of US income tax and tax of resident country. If tax of your resident country is same or higher, you don’t pay US taxes.
      Nov 27
    • Lockheed Martin aaaa459
      Ty for clarifying
      Nov 28

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