Civilized talk about why you voted for Obama.. twice

Netflix misterio
Jul 28 40 Comments

If you did, why'd you vote for Obama, and were you fulfilled? What do you agree and disagree with? Looking for serious answers.

Some rules for the thread:

- Please try to be detailed in your replies. "republicans are bad" isn't helpful, and I'd like to better understand.
- Be the better person and help us have a civilized discussion.
- Please refrain from terms that you know will set people off, either side of the fence. If it sounds like something the Barack or the Hillary would say, rephrase it.
- Don't feed the trolls. They'll have babies.

P s this is to mirror similar post democrats posted :)

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  • Yelp / Eng sJJv80
    First time, I voted for Obama because I thought I was voting for a civil libertarian and constitutional scholar who would close down Guantanamo and end illegal NSA surveillance of American citizens. None of that happened.

    Second time, I voted for him because the alternative was worse.
    Jul 28 22
    • New dnb
      So small businesses make up about 99% of the workforce in America. Trump's tax cuts primarily benefits the large corporations who never had problems hiring employees and like I said previously it's well documented that these corporations are more loyal to their shareholders when it comes to excess cash. I'll be honest Trump's taxcut does benefit small business even though it's a deduction rather than a flat out taxcut like the large corporations enjoy. Many small businesses won't be able to take advantage of it because they have to be making under 140k to qualify and in addition to that if you offer any professional services I.e. Consultants/lawyers you straight up don't even qualify. A 20% deduction on an income below 140k doesn't afford any businesses in that bracket to pay a decent salary to anyone short of the people Trump's trying to keep out of this country. Like what are they going to do with the savings hire 1 or 2 people then no longer qualify for the tax deduction and hope that the two people they hire will help scale their business to turn a $1mm profit? Lmao
      Jul 28
    • Netflix misterio
      OP
      How does it benefit large tax corps? If anything it benefits small businesses a lot more lol
      Large corporations will be fine either way, it’s the small business that profits a lot from large tax cuts
      Jul 28
    • Netflix misterio
      OP
      I think you are conflating 140k for individuals Ca small business.
      21% instead of 35% is huge and it applies to all businesses
      Jul 28
    • Netflix misterio
      OP
      Did you get it from Huffington post or something? Share your sources, I don’t see it on irs.gov
      Jul 28
    • New dnb
      https://www.fundera.com/blog/trump-tax-plan
      Most small business are ran as a pass through business and they don't get tax cuts just deductions which doesn't amount to more than two new employees when you account for the qualifications
      Jul 28
  • F5 Networks dontalk2me
    In compliance with your rules:

    Republicans are bad ..
    You’re a troll
    Many of trump supports are idiot
    GTFO
    Jul 28 1
    • Netflix misterio
      OP
      Now sure if I am suppose to like it or hate, but I did like because it’s typical leftist rhetoric :)
      Jul 28
  • SAP
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     Manmore
    What about those of us who didn't vote for Obama either time?
    Jul 28 5
    • Netflix misterio
      OP
      Must be racist conservative hater
      Jul 28
    • Google Mr. GIass
      ^This is why OP is struggling to get serious responses.
      Jul 28
    • Yelp / Eng sJJv80
      Just because someone didn’t vote for Obama makes them neither racist nor conservative. There were other non-white candidates and candidates farther to the left to choose from.
      Jul 28
    • Netflix misterio
      OP
      Yes I was obviously sarcastic
      Jul 28
    • Google Mr. GIass
      'obviously'
      Jul 28
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    Because he was more pro-gay than his opponent.

    I was disappointed that Democrats didn’t immediately repeal DADT and DOMA, but we got there eventually.

    Whereas Republicans are still trying to take my marriage rights away and kick LGBTQ people out of the military.
    Jul 28 2
  • Target / Cust. Srv. tmDe33
    I didn't vote for years and years. I thought it was a waste of time.

    I don't think that way any more.

    I voted for the first time in 2018, and will vote again every year.
    Jul 28 0
  • Amazon &p
    In most elections it's about who is the lesser evil, meaning you often end up voting for someone you think is flawed, but far less flawed than the alternative.

    In the most recent election Trump v Clinton was really a contest between two utterly horrible people and I think most voters on either side held their noses when voting.

    Probably about 20% on each side that were crazy enough to actually like their candidate and the rest just picking what they believed to be the lesser evil.

    That said, looking back, Obama and McCain both had positive messages overall. Better days. I think they actually believed in building the country (succeeding being something else), whereas Trump and Clinton were both just very divisive and campaigned largely on who was the scarier.
    Jul 28 0
  • Apple democrat
    Who the hell cares of Obama.. he is yesterday’s news!
    Jul 28 0
  • Apple Okidoki
    I wasn’t eligible to vote for Obama, but I sympathized. I liked the steps he took to take the US out of the economic crisis, his attempts to bring better healthcare options across the US (unfortunately initial plan got severely cut by republicans). Iran deal was fine too, as well as taking climate change seriously (not to the extent I wanted it to, but better than what we have today). His attempts to close Guantanamo and take the US out if Afghanistan were decent, but obviously didn’t fully succeed (I’m not sure we’d want it at its cost). I was not happy with his Israel/Palestine approach, and US involvement in Libya may have made things worse. I also think there should have been more done to improve the security of elections and meddling from other countries.
    Jul 28 2
    • Oracle datornator
      Are you concerned about the US budget?
      Jul 28
    • Apple Okidoki
      I am! I understand it takes a lot of effort to take the country out of the crisis and I was hoping that maybe conservatives at least would be “fiscally responsible”. Unfortunately, it is not the case. While I applaud some of the tax cuts, many of them were ridiculous and we should have really re-assessed the military spending. Especially since Trump said he was focusing on internal issues and not eager to fix anyone else’s problems.
      Jul 29