Everything was going good and they said my feedback was very positive. They decided to pull my verbal offer last second and came up with a last second excuse. The company is very large, I’m really irked as to why they did this. Does anyone know?
Bloomberg lmao
And they can fire you on the first day too and without cause... at least in America. Welcome to freedom. Reason enough: Because they can. Just like you can quit and renig when you please. When people get all bent out of shape about choosing one employer over another, turning down multiple offers, whether to give two weeks, job hopping, and my favorite: become overly consumed about “burning bridges” - I can’t help but think about these situations. You all seem to forget when employers burn bridges... lay people off with no severance (or notice), forget to promote you or increase your pay for several years, or give the rookie significantly more than you make as a seasoned pro, or walk you out before your two weeks notice even started. This is business, your best bet is to remove the emotion and play the game harder. Anyone touting otherwise is full of shit.
Some truth to this. But companies are also made up of people. And I think there's something to be said about being competent AND generally nice to people. Not a push over but respectful to the people that you might be working with at some point in the future.
You can be nice and competent and still business-oriented. At no point should one compromise their interests in the name of niceties and appeasing others and too often people feel the need to do this because people are coaching them to do it. It is often at their own expense. Your sanity and success is not worth a superficial connection. Now, if it is a deep and meaningful relationship that has positioned you forward in your career and will continue to position you forward and reap benefits, give pause to that. But generally speaking people are just people, and business is just business. You don’t need to bend over backward unless you want to bend over backwards.
What was the last second excuse?
Mixed interview feedback, lol??
Probably bad backchannel feedback
I've had to deliver this message before when funding was pulled :/
And from the other end (happened with me too) the only thing i can suggest : name and shame...
“I make new enemies every day. It’s called business.”—Bosses 2.
If it's not on paper, it doesn't exist.
Exactly.. was hunting for a new job recently, and had one company extend a verbal offer, but not a written one, because “the position isn’t going to officially be open until the first of July” Still haven’t heard back from them.... 🙄
Please even when it is in on paper it can be pulled. There’s no recourse. Always watch your bottom line so you can absorb getting screwed by an employer .
Verbal offer != Paper offer. If it ain't on paper, then it didn't happen.
I got a verbal offer today. 140k base plus 15k bonus. I asked her if she can send an official offer. She said she wouldn’t until she knew if I could take it since it requires a lot of approvals to write an offer . Does that mean she would pull the offer if I negotiated ?
Maybe but probably not. What it really means is that they don’t want you using their offer to shop around. Ways I’ve gotten around this when other companies ask for proof is to email her with the numbers she gave you and ask if they’re correct, the email thread seems to be enough proof (although honestly idk why since that’s definitely fakeable).
I’d like to get more context on this. @OP, did you finished all the onsite interviews? What was the excuse given for pulling out the offer?
Hiring ticket got revoked or maybe they found a better candidate. Regardless, name and shame.
Goldman Sachs, OP was coming here based on their previous thread (GS vs Wayfair).
This is kind of common in finance, right? When those companies get bearish about the market, they seem to completely change momentum with hiring/firing. Wondering about your insight from inside the industry?