Compensation Tiers of Companies for Tech Jobs

Lazard fin/tech
May 22, 2018 68 Comments

By popular demand, I'm reposting one of my replies on another thread. This tiering is based on both trajectory and overall scale of total comp (base+bonus+stock) for IC positions. Edit: subsidiaries with the same pay go under the parent (e.g. Twitch and Amazon)

Based off of all the comp data points I've seen across blind/cscq/HN/google forms.. This is my tiering:

Public:
1.
Snapchat, Facebook, Linkedin, Google, Twitter, Apple, Amazon (L6+ only), Dropbox, Netflix, Microsoft (L64-66+ only), Cruise, Jet, Splunk, Roku, Oracle (OCI), Tableau, Cloudera

2.
Microsoft (<L64), Box, Amazon (L4-L5), Nutanix, Square, Yahoo (Oath), Yelp, Salesforce, Paypal, Zendesk, WalmartLabs, Spotify, Twilio + {insert top financial services companies with high tech spend.. e.g. Goldman}

3.
Adobe, VMware, eBay, Autodesk, Groupon, Unity, Zynga, Nvida, Intuit

4.
NetApp, Qualcomm, Oracle, Cisco, Tesla

Untiered.. because meh pay:
Samsung, HP, Dell, Sony, Intel, IBM, EA, Pixar, SAS, SAP

Private:

1.
Uber, Lyft, Quora, Airbnb, Pinterest, Stripe, Valve, Slack, Palantir + {insert all quant hedge funds and top prop shops}

2.
{insert all other brand name startups or private tech companies} + Bloomberg

3.
{insert early stage startups}

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TOP 68 Comments
  • Yahoo LiamNam
    My tier list, not based on compensation:

    Tier 0: Be your own boss
    Tier 1: Google, Facebook, Netflix
    Tier 2: Apple, Airbnb, Lyft, Uber, Square, Slack, Dropbox, LinkedIn, Robinhood
    Tier 3: Microsoft, Amazon, Yelp, Pinterest, Twitter, Salesforce, Zillow, Snapchat, Reddit, Spotify, Twitch, Nvidia
    Tier 4: Cisco, Oracle, Yahoo/Verizon, SAP, Intel, Adobe, IBM, Intuit, eBay, PayPal, Juniper
    Tier 5: Everything else
    May 22, 2018 3
    • Microsoft AsyncIO
      This is correct!
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft jsAv07
      What is it based on?
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft Lololo101
      Oracle OCI pays a lot more then msft.
      May 22, 2018
  • Nice man! Also interesting to compare the levels at some of these companies at http://levels.fyi
    May 22, 2018 8
    • Chase tjPE83
      MSFT Numbers pls?
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft jsAv07
      ^ @Thanos which team/product are you in?
      May 22, 2018
    • New / Eng
      JillGates

      New Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      JillGatesmore
      Yes please tell us what team!
      May 22, 2018
    • Chase tjPE83
      Yoe?
      May 22, 2018
    • Which numbers are off, is it all the levels?
      May 23, 2018
  • Microsoft HackSOA
    I believe this is the post that summarizes most of Blind. If you add TC ranges in the post - 80% of Blind posts can stop
    May 24, 2018 0
  • Microsoft jsAv07
    Apple in Tier 1? I think they pay less.
    May 22, 2018 6
    • Microsoft / Eng Crossovert
      Apple pays less cash but large refreshers which makes up for it
      May 22, 2018
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      They have big fuck off refreshers
      May 22, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Not as big as fb or google tho
      May 22, 2018
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      Dude, 60-100%+ refreshers are pretty big
      May 22, 2018
    • Amazon UUaT37cd
      Apple refreshers are much better than others.. they deserve to be at top.
      May 23, 2018
  • Microsoft wXrj81
    OCI should be top tier.
    May 22, 2018 1
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      Will change +1
      May 22, 2018
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    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      Any pointers you want to throw in?
      May 22, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng Fhhgdj
    Tableau, Splunk, Roku are public. Oracle OCI be tier 1 at least pay wise
    May 22, 2018 3
    • Chase tjPE83
      Oracle OCI really? Whats the TC like
      May 22, 2018
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      Had no idea thanks, will change +1
      May 22, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng Fhhgdj
      Ic3 in (250, 300) ic4 in (300 400)
      May 22, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng JimmyRi
    Very helpful thanks!! 🙏
    May 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft THAT-Guy
    I don't think level 64 is as 64 as you think it is. In terms of comp, we're not on the same planet as Google and Facebook at level 64. Maybe 66...
    May 22, 2018 12
    • Chase tjPE83
      How many yoe is L64?
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft AsyncIO
      Usually 8 if you started at L59 at Msft.
      May 22, 2018
    • Chase tjPE83
      @AsyncIO. Thx! So this is what i still disagree with the list. It takes 8 years at MSFT to achieve the same pay as 3 years at FB. Isn’t that the very definition of different “tiers”? By that reason i think MSFT and AMZN should be #2. No need to split them up.
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft AsyncIO
      That is true. But you hit a ceiling at all places if you want to stay as an IC. Most places don’t even offer these salaries to ICs no matter the experience level. But yeah I agree with you.
      May 22, 2018
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      @AsyncIO is correct.. the idea is if you hit L6 at e.g. Amazon, your ceiling is higher than the tier 2s at the same level
      May 22, 2018
  • Twitch Noobpoo
    Amazon and Twitch have the same comp but are not in same tier?
    May 22, 2018 1
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      That's kind of why I posted it so we as a community could crowd source the changes
      May 22, 2018
  • Salesforce Quipper
    Tableau is nowhere near #1 on this. Their base salaries are at the low end of #2 and they are equity heavy and have proved highly volatile already!
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • Presidio HardH@t
    Where is Pure Storage on this list?
    Sep 2, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Crossovert
    I would put Amazon (L6+) as Tier1. Amazon L5 is $170k - $220k.
    May 22, 2018 4
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      Cool, will amend
      May 22, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      What is the L5 equal at Microsoft? 63?
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Crossovert
      In terms of scope L62.
      In terms of pay: L63.
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Crossovert
      If you are an L5 wanting to move to MSFT, aim for L63
      May 22, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    Hooliganss

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    AWS
    Hooliganssmore
    Interesting
    May 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft HackSOA
    Microsoft is certainly not tier1 in terms of salary - atleast <=65
    May 22, 2018 4
    • Microsoft / Eng Crossovert
      Tier1 = $250k+. L64 hits that
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft HackSOA
      L64 equivalent in tier1 gets 300+
      May 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Bx3sigedtn
      All L65 I know are less than 300. I don’t think there’s any combination of base+cash bonus +stock rewards of L64 can be over 300.
      May 25, 2018
    • Microsoft CykaBlyat
      Sales can, as can MCS with top rewards. Pretty tough, though.
      May 31, 2018
  • Intel / Eng 007agt
    It's amusing to see Intel at untiered level. My bosses insisted TC is competitive🙄
    Jan 15 1
    • Pegasystems lmWithHer
      You didnt let him finish. Competitive at their tier
      Apr 4
  • Microsoft Spiderplan
    Are the #1 private companies compensation on par with the #1 public ones? I have a few friend working for some of the companies in the list and it doesn't seem like they are doing that extraordinarily compared to most people in the top public ones.
    May 22, 2018 0
  • Palantir VHJy36
    Palantir does not pay Tier 1 comp unless you are extremely optimistic about the stock options (or you joined years ago when they were priced lower)
    Jul 21, 2018 2
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      I guess they only pay tier 1 for entry level
      Jul 22, 2018
    • Palantir VHJy36
      Yes for entry level/new grad their offers could still be considered competitive
      Jul 22, 2018
  • Fitbit YoJLo
    Twilio is public y’all
    May 22, 2018 1
    • Lazard fin/tech
      OP
      Jeez I'm so behind on tech IPOs (which is terrible as a TMT banker lol)
      May 22, 2018
  • Proactis / Eng
    MacGamerK

    Proactis Eng

    PRE
    Harris
    BIO
    Software Test Engineer attempting to transition to iOS Engineer.
    MacGamerKmore
    Which tier would Robinhood, Coinbase, and Acorns fit in?
    Jun 8 0