Completely inhuman things in Seattle

Aug 1, 2018 38 Comments

I was invited to visit Seattle for a onsite interview. When the interview was done I decided to tour the city.

One thing I noticed is that near any sidewalk if there is a place to sit or sleep there are steel spikes installed there. Each bench has steel dividers. Below every bridge sidewalk we have by cycle racks. (Clearly you can’t park bikes there)

It became very clear that someone has spent tens of thousands of dollars (if not more) to make the life of homeless people even more miserable than it already is.

Why? Seattle is home to Bill Gates who donates billions of dollars for children in Africa. Doesn’t his eye see his own backyard? Or Bezos? Or that Starbucks guy who will contest 2020 presidential elections?

I could see it on my second day in Seattle .... to me it looked like Seattle is on its way to become. Shithole like SF or LA.

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TOP 38 Comments
  • Amazon kgdtjj
    Donating to kids in Africa (who can't do anything) is way different than allowing homeless people (adults who are physically able to work) to live their lazy life or keep staying high/drunk.
    Aug 1, 2018 3
    • While some might just be lazy, a lot of people are on the streets because they’re disabled or have mental issues, can’t get treatment because they don’t have insurance, can’t get insurance because they don’t have a job, and can’t get a job because they are not healthy.
      See the issue?
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Amazon kgdtjj
      You get in a deadlock if your conditions are originally set wrong. A physically able person to work must work. There's no excuse.
      If the person is physically ill that's a different conversation and I've never seen a physically ill homeless.
      90% of the homeless I'm seeing every day in Seattle are drunk/high and have very high ego/attitude.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • I see daily homeless people who are physically ill.
      Among the others, mental illness is extremely widespread - just based on their behavior. Serious mental health issues are cause of inability to work too. Addition to alcohol and drugs is an illness too, and people should receive treatment.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Facebook Eirne
    Because these homeless don’t need compassion. They’re addicts who sell their house and get on drugs the moment you give them one. They have mental and attitude problems. Clearly you haven’t spoken to these so called homeless people and you naively think they need money and help. They need institutionalization into mental treatment centers, that’s what they need.
    Aug 1, 2018 4
    • Autodesk / Eng
      mCyn20

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      Addiction is a disease too. Some of them could’ve been addicted due to PTSD. “Homeless dont need compassion” seems a bit excessive
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Amazon kgdtjj
      Addiction might be a disease, but a disease that people create for themselves. A person who was born with a defect or got a defect in an accident that he wasn't guilty in, is way different than a person who burns his money in a game that will eventually be called a disease.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Autodesk / Eng
      mCyn20

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      😀 disease people create for themselves? Just talk to some of them, maybe you will find compassion with in you. I was not suggesting you help them, but the suggestion you had of not needing compassion was ruthless
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Amazon kgdtjj
      I feel bad for them just like I feel bad for anyone who's made wrong decisions in life. That doesn't mean I (or the rest of the world) haven't. But there's a difference between a person who learns from his mistakes and a person who doesn't even admit it.
      And I have talked to several of them. My whole comment here was based on those conversations.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Amazon vKNR25
    Why not bring a few home next time.
    Aug 1, 2018 1
  • Microsoft TrumpWins
    Money isn't the issue. The city spends $50 million per year on homelessness. They absolutely do not need more money for them. They've done surveys on this and people here overwhelmingly think the city doesn't need more money for the homeless.

    The problem is that city is actually way too lenient on the homeless. They will not be prosecuted for small property crimes, assault, or drug use because the county prosecutors want to keep incarceration rates low. They allow tons of people to live around the freeways and police rarely kick them out since they have "the right to housing", regardless of how much trash and needles pile up around those camps.

    Just start living in Seattle and you'll understand why no one wants to live around homeless people. Chances are that you'll have to step over people overdosing on heroin every morning going to work.
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • Microsoft SimpleRick
    Check out HostileArchitecture on Reddit.
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • OP
    I decided to walk out of my hotel to see the impact of these things at 11:30 PM. I saw homeless people sitting on the bench and trying to sleep sitting upright. They could have easily lay down if the government had not spend thousands of dollars in expensive steel dividers? ( 2 per bench). Why?
    Aug 1, 2018 4
    • Amazon vKNR25
      Grass sounds cushier
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      There's plenty of people lying down around yesler and 4th. The entire block also smells like urine and you might step on a heroin needle.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • OP
      Lot of white people in the homeless. Does that raise some compassion in your “trump” heart? “White grievance” hits home with trumptards.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      If you're so compassionate, how about YOU go pick up the needles, wash the piss away, clean up the human shit on the sidewalks, pick up the piles of trash bags, donate more of your paycheck, and let some homeless stay with you.

      If you aren't willing to do that then STFU and stop lecturing those of us who actually live here about an issue you don't even understand
      Aug 1, 2018
  • OP
    I did mention Bezos ... look carefully or google it
    Aug 1, 2018 3
    • Google BezosJr
      Sorry. I re-read, and you did. Quick mention though :)
      Aug 1, 2018
    • OP
      Reason I called out BillG is because of all tech billionaires he is the kindest and most philanthropic (in my opinion). Others don’t do as much charity as BillG. He never wasted money building rockets.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Amazon
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      If you think building rockets is wasteful then I do not know what to say.

      There are many social and religious institutions that run shelters to help homeless but expect the homeless to put in some effort in return too (such as cleanup around the property, etc). Many homeless (not all) want only a handout and refuse to take help from these shelters
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Zendesk Toadstool
    I’m unclear on how you think SF became a shithole, exactly. It did. But how? The reason is not because we had too many spikes. (We hardly have any, as I’m sure you agree)
    Aug 1, 2018 2
    • OP
      Same problem of homeless people and lots of ghetto areas.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Zendesk Toadstool
      That’s a result, not a process. But thanks for confirming that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Amazon iabU782s
    My man, the city is dealing with a homelessness crisis. You don’t just let it run rampant. Most of them are dealing with substance abuse and will choose the street over a camp where they need to stay clean. It’s about making them uncomfortable enough to start making changes.
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • Welcome to America! 🇺🇸
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • Salesforce JaEE06
    Fallacy of relative privation. Bill gates can solve whatever problem he wants. There are plenty of problems in the world and more than one person is solving problems at any given time
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • VMware / Eng
    tyxS31

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    It's a very touchy subject, you don't want the streets to be homeless inviting, but still humane to those who had to.
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • Google BezosJr
    Funny how OP mentioned Bill Gates, whose company is based in Redmond, but neglected to mention Jeff Bezos and Amazon, one of the main reasons Seattle is what it is today. I’ve worked for Amazon many years and was able to see the transformation.
    For anyone who is cheering for you city to be picked up by Amazon to be HQ2, research the Seattle transformation in the last 20 years.
    Aug 1, 2018 1
    • Salesforce / Eng Vlad Putin
      In the last 20 years Seattle went from being irrelevant shithole to a shithole that is one of the major centers of modern software engineering.
      Also it's government become more and more left and mismanaged money that growth brought hence successfully maintained the shithole status.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • There is only one solution to homeless issue in the US and that is socialized healthcare. You won’t belive how many ppl land up on street because of exorbitantly expensive healthcare.
    Aug 4, 2018 0
  • Microsoft shocktroop
    really strange you see it that way - its actually the opposite. Countless articles about how Seattle is the place to live if you are homeless. People migrating here from all over.
    Aug 3, 2018 0
  • Amazon fnuLnu
    Hell no.... The govt is asking $200 per employee from big companies in Seattle to help the homeless.... What are you taking about govt. Making their life miserable.
    Aug 1, 2018 2
    • $200 per employee for a company that already pays them $100k per year MINIMUM is essentially insignificant.
      Aug 2, 2018
    • Amazon fnuLnu
      Did you miss the last sentence.
      Aug 2, 2018
  • VMware / Eng
    tyxS31

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    There is a very nice channel on YouTube which interviews homeless people called "Invisible People"
    Aug 1, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Product @zzz
    Did you interview at the dmv or king county court on 4th. Aligns with the description.
    Aug 1, 2018 0