Contractor @ Apple

Oath Uxwh77
Jan 21, 2018 16 Comments

My wife is considering a contractor gig at Apple, but has heard/read some horror stories.

Could someone that is currently or has been a contractor at Apple weigh in here?

Does Apple hire contractors as FTE?

Are contractors able to take advantage of any campus perks?

Anything else you can share, good or bad.

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  • Apple / Other
    stevejerbs

    Apple Other

    BIO
    Previous CEO @ 🍎
    stevejerbsmore
    conversion is case by case, prove yourself as an important asset to the team and they can try and get a full-time position opened for you
    Jan 21, 2018 1
    • AT&T / Ops
      DDM2K

      AT&T Ops

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      Windstream
      DDM2Kmore
      I think you just confirmed the horror story 💀
      Jan 21, 2018
  • Apple Ufxe
    I went from contractor to FTE. Your benefits come from the contracting company as does your paycheck - so it depends who you work through.

    If you’re average or below average at your job you won’t get an offer, or if they simply can’t get headcount allocated. Like most things - it just depends.

    Overall my experience was just fine as a contractor, and now FTE software engineer for 3 years.
    Jan 21, 2018 2
    • Oath Uxwh77
      OP
      While you were a contractor, we're you able to use campus perks?

      What about company events?
      Jan 21, 2018
    • Apple JnFI11
      Most events like beer bashes: yes. Perks: usually, depends on the admin.
      Jan 21, 2018
  • IBM DaEI86
    The use of contractors is abused by all of these big companies. You're not considered an FTE for any of them nor do you get any of the benefits. Usually the firm that places contractors will offer something, but nothing from the company hiring the contractor. This shit needs to be regulated. Supposedly nearly all of the job growth over the past decade or so has been via temp/contractor roles.
    Jan 21, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Eng fgog33
      We will end up like Japan where many people have to perma-temp for their whole career.
      Jul 17
  • Apple / Eng RxcG74
    I work in Maps and we usually get quite a few contractors every year for our team. Conversations to FTE do happen but the competition is tough. I recently heard that Apple or maybe Maps have adopted a policy where they let the contractor go after 1 year if they can’t convert him/her into an FTE ( Not sure if this is an actual thing. Please confirm before you make any decision)

    Other than that I would recommend staying away from IS&T. Few people I know who work there have horrible experiences.

    Perks: Last I heard contractors don’t get any employee discounts on devices, medical, espp etc.
    Jan 21, 2018 1
    • Apple
      Jefffrrrey

      Apple

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      Uber
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      I just came for the comments.
      Jefffrrreymore
      The one year limit is actually California Coemployment law. There are exceptions, but not important in detail for this discussion.
      Jan 21, 2018
  • Glassdoor pxndbekf
    What horror?
    Jan 21, 2018 0
  • Charles Schwab / Eng take3fulll
    What kind of horror?
    Jan 21, 2018 0
  • Apple
    Jefffrrrey

    Apple

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    Uber
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    I just came for the comments.
    Jefffrrreymore
    Beer Bashes yes, employee benefits and perks like fitness, medical, etc., no. It’s an employment law issue around California Coemployment. (Read: http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/13/business/technology-temp-workers-at-microsoft-win-lawsuit.html) Tl;dr Contract and temp employee positions can not resemble FTE too closely. In my experience, it is not likely that a contract position will be insourced from a Contract position, though it does happen. She shouldn’t look at it as a road to FTE, IMO. My experience as a contractor was just fine with those expectations.
    Jan 21, 2018 0
  • Instacart instacart7
    Great placebo
    Mar 12 0
  • Proofpoint rix
    Contractors get ot by law unless a lawyer or accountant.
    Jan 21, 2018 0
  • Apple LadyiCloud
    Yes apple hires contractors as FTE. Contractors can use shuttle. Good - depending on contracting company can get OT. Bad - not co seated with other employees.
    Jan 21, 2018 0
  • Apple 3eta
    Certain roles are never meant to be fulltime and are always outsourced through contractors. Some roles can be temporary contractor roles until the managers gets additional headcount and able to convert a contractor. Certain teams can’t have any contractors at all and only hire fte, but their hiring bar is usually higher. Sometimes contractors stay in a different building and only come over to their fte counterparts for meetings. A personal trainer I knew was fired after she took a pair headphones - apparently only ftes can get an equipment and she either forgot or didn’t know, her employer didn’t care and just fired her (I don’t know if Apple even knew what happened).
    Jan 21, 2018 0