CompensationJul 9, 2019
Twitternakata92

Cruise automation Sr. Software offer eval

Received a verbal offer from the recruiter - Role - Sr. Software Eng. Base - 190 K Bonus - 57 K Equity - 170K in Cruise stocks (1 + 4). Location - Seattle YOE - 6 Current TC - 162K base + 21K Bonus + 85K equity (in seattle) Overall Cruise is offering more in cash but less in Equity. Not sure about the value of the pre ipo stock either. How much can I negotiate here? Also would love some insight on the work culture and WLB. Thanks!

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Facebook iTyK26 Jul 9, 2019

Damn that’s really low.

Facebook mturtle Jul 9, 2019

Is the bonus a sign on bonus or yearly target? Is yearly target that's good. If one time, not great.

SAP l337c0d3 Jul 9, 2019

yearly and not variable. You get it in full as long as you're not on a pip.

Facebook mturtle Jul 9, 2019

That's a good offer then. Assuming senior is L5/E5/L4 at amzn/fb/goog. Then it's close to 250 all cash without the equity component. That would be a good offer at that level in the tech companies I mentioned

Drive.ai zyz Jul 9, 2019

Their stock is shit, super overpriced. Only go if the liquid component is better than your current TC.

Drive.ai zyz Jul 9, 2019

Also, everyone and their mothers is a senior SWE at Cruise.

SAP l337c0d3 Jul 9, 2019

@zyx wondering where it did take you after drive.ai sale. Apple or looking somewhere else?

Microsoft DjenNow Jul 9, 2019

What level are you at Twitter ?

Twitter nakata92 OP Jul 9, 2019

Sr. software engineer, so same level as what I am getting at Cruise.

Drive.ai zyz Jul 9, 2019

Same title is not the same thing as same level. Titles at Cruise are inflated, and you'll be down-leveled if you move to FAANG.

Facebook DeepForget Jul 9, 2019

That equity is annual right? (Twitter and cruise)? If not, you're getting fucked.

Twitter nakata92 OP Jul 9, 2019

Twitter equity is annual, Cruise equity is for 4 years.

Facebook DeepForget Jul 9, 2019

Not good

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taddada Jul 9, 2019

Recently joined Cruise and it’s a fucking dumpster fire. Haven’t been here for a year and I wanna get out like yesterday. The bonus and overpriced RSU are not worth the toll on your mental health.

Cruise Automation raw Jul 9, 2019

I left before a year

SAP l337c0d3 Jul 9, 2019

where did you go and why?

Cruise Automation raw Jul 9, 2019

Not a good place as an engineer with experience. Incompetent middle managers and “senior” ICs. Everything is about politics, not about the work and teams are often antagonistic. SDCs are cool but not cool enough to pay down that environment

Cruise Automation Tc350_4yoe Jul 11, 2019

Equity doesn’t sound right

Cruise Automation powergrab Jul 20, 2019

Don’t come to Cruise. It’s a shit show tbh.