Cruise automation Sr. Software offer eval

Twitter nakata92
Jul 9 26 Comments

Received a verbal offer from the recruiter -
Role - Sr. Software Eng.
Base - 190 K
Bonus - 57 K
Equity - 170K in Cruise stocks (1 + 4).

Location - Seattle
YOE - 6

Current TC - 162K base + 21K Bonus + 85K equity (in seattle)

Overall Cruise is offering more in cash but less in Equity. Not sure about the value of the pre ipo stock either. How much can I negotiate here? Also would love some insight on the work culture and WLB. Thanks!

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TOP 26 Comments
  • Facebook iTyK26
    Damn that’s really low.
    Jul 9 0
  • New taddada
    Recently joined Cruise and it’s a fucking dumpster fire. Haven’t been here for a year and I wanna get out like yesterday. The bonus and overpriced RSU are not worth the toll on your mental health.
    Jul 9 0
  • Drive.ai zyz
    Their stock is shit, super overpriced. Only go if the liquid component is better than your current TC.
    Jul 9 4
    • Drive.ai zyz
      Also, everyone and their mothers is a senior SWE at Cruise.
      Jul 9
    • @zyx wondering where it did take you after drive.ai sale. Apple or looking somewhere else?
      Jul 9
    • Drive.ai zyz
      🍎
      Jul 9
    • New FRTC37
      Cruise stock is overpriced. Drive Ai stock is zero
      Jul 11
  • Cruise Automation raw
    I left before a year
    Jul 9 6
    • Cruise Automation raw
      Not a good place as an engineer with experience. Incompetent middle managers and “senior” ICs. Everything is about politics, not about the work and teams are often antagonistic. SDCs are cool but not cool enough to pay down that environment
      Jul 9
    • Amazon vimpy
      Which team were you in? I am going to join soon.
      Jul 9
    • Cruise Automation raw
      There are some good landing places, it’s just not the majority. It comes down to your manager and how much debt has been / is being incurred.
      Jul 9
    • what's SDC?
      Jul 9
    • New taddada
      Self driving car
      Jul 10
  • Cruise Automation powergrab
    Don’t come to Cruise. It’s a shit show tbh.
    Jul 20 0
  • Microsoft
    DjenNow

    Microsoft

    PRE
    Google, Amazon, Facebook
    DjenNow more
    What level are you at Twitter ?
    Jul 9 3
    • Twitter nakata92
      OP
      Sr. software engineer, so same level as what I am getting at Cruise.
      Jul 9
    • Drive.ai zyz
      Same title is not the same thing as same level. Titles at Cruise are inflated, and you'll be down-leveled if you move to FAANG.
      Jul 9
    • Cruise Automation brawndo
      We have many seniors with 10 or more yoe so no. For staff it’s actually opposite - very few staff (some departments have none) and leading cross functional projects and teams is a requirement unlike in a lot of faang these days.
      Jul 10
  • Facebook DeepForget
    That equity is annual right? (Twitter and cruise)? If not, you're getting fucked.
    Jul 9 2
    • Twitter nakata92
      OP
      Twitter equity is annual, Cruise equity is for 4 years.
      Jul 9
    • Facebook DeepForget
      Not good
      Jul 9
  • Facebook / Eng mturtle
    Is the bonus a sign on bonus or yearly target? Is yearly target that's good. If one time, not great.
    Jul 9 2
    • yearly and not variable. You get it in full as long as you're not on a pip.
      Jul 9
    • Facebook / Eng mturtle
      That's a good offer then. Assuming senior is L5/E5/L4 at amzn/fb/goog. Then it's close to 250 all cash without the equity component. That would be a good offer at that level in the tech companies I mentioned
      Jul 9
  • Cruise Automation Tc350_4yoe
    Equity doesn’t sound right
    Jul 11 0