Cruise vs Argo.ai vs Lyft offers.

Amazon bcjkpdhhab
Sep 23, 2018 49 Comments

Location SF Bay area.

Cruise offer: IC4
Base: 190k
Annual cash bonus: 52.5k
Private equity: 210k/4
Joining bonus: 5k

Argo.ai:
Base: $165k
Profit interest: 750k
Annual bonus: 10 to 15% of base (not sure yet. Haven't received written offer)

Lyft:
Base: 200k
Private equity: 800k/4
Joining bonus: 10k

All three are private companies. So not sure how to compare them. Help

Yoe: 9
Current TC: $260k
Level L5
SDE 2

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  • Nielsen / Eng
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    100% Lyft. I would happily ignore tc to a great extent for Lyft. They're on a mission that few can compete to successfully complete.
    Sep 23, 2018 10
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      Copying is such a biased word used towards few companies. Is google a copy 🐈?? They did copy smart speaker business after Alexa echo speaker came into market. Is Microsoft a copy 🐈?? They did copy AWS style business. Is Apple a copy 🐈?? Answer is yes. Amazon?? Yes, Facebook?? Yes..

      Then why blame Lyft. Don't be biased. That's my point.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Uber broforce
      Don’t get me wrong, their offer is good, they’ve got good talent and it might be a great opportunity for you. I would take it over Amazon any time. What I’m questioning is their mission.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Nielsen / Eng
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      It's the same mission as Uber. I think the term for it is competition.
      Sep 24, 2018
    • Amazon TncD03
      DoorDash is way ahead to uber when it comes to food delivery. Now according to "broforce" we have to question the mission of uber as well.
      Sep 24, 2018
    • Nielsen / Eng
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      I don't think Uber is concentrating much on delivery though
      Sep 24, 2018
  • Uber broforce
    I would take cruise automation.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Cruise Automation oacf24
    Cruise for sure. I looked at lyft too but a few things made the choice easy.
    Sep 23, 2018 2
    • Amazon Nozama
      What made it easy? How do you like cruise so far?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Cruise Automation oacf24
      Mainly Issues at Lyft (and especially with the teams I was offered). Bigger career opportunity after working in AV space. Lot more relatively certain upside on that equity. Cruise can be crazy with hyper growth, but so far I love it
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Amazon VoxApp
    Congratulations Lyft seems to be better overall both offer and future prospects. How long have you been with Amazon?
    Sep 23, 2018 4
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      Just more than a year.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon VoxApp
      Lyft in sf or Palo Alto?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Yahoo Motoko
      Hmm you would have only got 5% stock vested, not worth waiting until the first 40% vesting happening after end of 3rd year? Stock appreciated too much
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      @Motoko: with the current stock appreciation, my 2nd to 4th TC, will be around $260k to $280k. Assuming stock doesn't go down or up from here. Amazon's stock refreshers and annual raise sucks big time since stock went up. I received 0% raise and no RSUs at the end of year 1 cycle with above average perf rating. So I don't see a point in staying at Amazon, when other companies offering more than I would make at Amazon at year 4.
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Cruise Automation Byck21
    Definitely cruise
    Sep 23, 2018 2
    • Lyft Hoooo
      How does cruise rsu work? Can they convert to GM stock?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      Nope. Cruise spun off thier business from GM. So you get Cruise's privte RSUs. No ties with GM stocks
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Twitch $$$&&&+###
    JPMorgan is reportedly in talks to lead Lyft's IPO. Google it up the news. You are smart enough to make the decision based on this fact.
    Sep 26, 2018 0
  • Cruise Automation / Eng WayNO
    just get paid they’re all the same damn thing anyway a company that wants your time in exchange for x and will throw avocados at you to stuff your mouth with to keep you from bitching.
    Sep 24, 2018 1
  • Apple / Eng axd007
    Nobody talks about Argo.ai offer, I’m curious what does profit interest mean here? 750K looks a big number.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Tesla LEETCODER
    I took lyft because I liked the team. I got 190 base so I can survive on that money for a few years till they ipo. They will go public eventually. So the RSU they offered 500K is going to be worth something. This was my though process when I signed lyft.
    Sep 23, 2018 2
    • Amazon TncD03
      Nice. What's the internal stock price now ?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      Thanks.
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Cruise Automation osFf41
    Cruise cash bonus is guaranteed money. The others rely on them IPOing (but yeah, Lyft will go liquid)
    Sep 23, 2018 8
    • Amazon Nozama
      op, what does your Cruise offer say regarding the annual bonus?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      Cruise annual bonus depends on individual and company's performance as per the recruiter.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Cruise Automation crooze
      This bonus thing started few months back osff41, please do not misguide people - it's not paid out to anyone at all yet.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Cruise Automation crooze
      What does that even mean? "As long as you're meeting expectations"? Whose expectations? CEO manager HR co-worker? This is a blatant system that will be used to prevent paying out the full annual bonus.

      The language is intentional not coincidental.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon Nozama
      This means only your base is guaranteed. The year end bonus could end up being nothing or less than the max number provided. This sounds a bit higher risk than straight out RSUs.
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Cruise Automation p3s7
    Argo.ai comp upside is actually much higher. Don’t forget that profit interests saves you 15-20% tax already, so you need to take that additional bonus into Account
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Amazon TncD03
    What questions did they ask you in the interview ?
    Sep 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      Which interview?? I must have given 20 phone interviews, 5 to 7 onsite interviews.
      Sep 23, 2018
  • LinkedIn sheh
    location? no annual cash bonus in lyft? Lyft looks good.
    Sep 23, 2018 1
    • Lyft crossfire
      No annual bonuses in Lyft I've seen so far.
      Oct 3, 2018
  • New Neww
    Lyft looks good considering it will most probably go public. Can I know your title?
    Sep 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
      OP
      SDE 2. Updated the post
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Nvidia yui-we
    Lyft obviously. They are IPOing in 2019 as well which is a huge plus
    Nov 2, 2018 0
  • Cruise Automation RDCV72
    Which part of Cruise Automation?
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Lyft t4rx75c
    A lot depends what you want to work on. Cruise started earlier. Most interesting projects are already owned. There are more career opportunities in places that are in early phase.
    Sep 23, 2018 0