Decline Google offer after accepting it ?

Amazon fly6six
Mar 22, 2018 44 Comments

Accepted Google offer 3 weeks back T4 .
Been with Amazon for 3 years(total 9yr ex) and thought of looking for change . I liked oppurtunity in Google cloud and also the perks + prestige. However did not have any competing offer to negotiate.

My manager just recently told me about my rating (TT - top most) and mentioned about putting for promotion for SDE2 to SDE3 this quarter. Director is also vested in because of highly visible deliveries. Also principal gave some good written feedback. Making my case solid for promotion. They are not aware of me looking actively outside.

My comp will match what Google offered in April itself( with my recent ratings) and certainly increase drastically with promotion.

Can I re-negotiate at this point?
Can I decline, if so am I forever blacklisted from Google ?

Current comp 228 total (130 + 98k stocks)
Google offered 250 total(141 base + 15% bonus + 90k stocks) plus a 30 k sign on - Seattle

I anticipate comp to get around mid 240s in April.
With SDE 3 it starts from 270k ish.

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TOP 44 Comments
  • Hulu ywPn24
    I don’t have a good answer for you, but I’m in the same situation. Good luck.
    Mar 22, 2018 9
    • Amazon fly6six
      OP
      With Google ?
      Mar 22, 2018
    • Hulu ywPn24
      Yes.
      Mar 22, 2018
    • Hulu ywPn24
      TC thanks to annual review and vesting schedule is now about $20K less than Google’s offer. But taking their offer would mean I’d have to move from LA to Bay Area...and for a $20K difference, IDK if it’s worth that.
      Mar 22, 2018
    • Uber eaJE53
      It’s not worth it for the money, certainly. But there are other factors than money.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      You also have refreshers. Have a you factored that? If you do well there will be promotion. Plus you'd have greater freedom and better work challenges.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Hulu ywPn24
      Refreshers don’t kick in until about more than a year later (2020), and I’m on my way to being promoted here. Also, I am being down slotted at Google.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      Let's say you do get promoted and stay for 2 more years. What does that mean for your career? Can other keep growing the same way if you had moved to Google? Can you expect much better comp say 10 years from now if you stay? I'm just trying to understand your thought process.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Hulu ywPn24
      It’s hard to say. I am not sure about the mobility of my position at Google and the types of projects I will get to work on. On the other hand, I will definitely work on high impact projects here if I stay for 2 more years. Not sure about the comp 10 years from now - it’s entirely likely that I may work for another FANG after 2 years.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      Ok, understood. You mainly want to enjoy your work. As good a reason as any!
      Mar 23, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    CorrectBat

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    Don't do it! Boomerang instead so you at least have the other experience. You could like it more.
    Mar 22, 2018 1
    • Amazon ❎435⭕️
      +1. Especially if you manager an principal knows you well they will hire you back at 6. Go for it.
      Mar 24, 2018
  • Amazon D@yOne
    You don't need to decline Google.. their offer is available for a year if this rule has not changed. With that said you can decide to join them anytime in a year but of course need to have a team match. You can confirm this with their recruiter. But T4 is a bit low for 9yr exp.
    Mar 22, 2018 3
    • Google / Eng whoami420
      T4 is exactly expected for 9 years exp. At 250k he should expect 300k+ once you prove yourself and reach L5.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Amazon D@yOne
      A PhD new grad is T4 though.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Amazon kharri
      PhD’s suuuuck. All book smarts, no practical experience.
      Mar 23, 2018
  • Amazon Uuge16
    Tell google you’re promoted, provide proof in good faith and ask them to level up, higher offer or that you will re-consider google a year later, after gaining more experience at AMAZON at the promoted level.
    Mar 24, 2018 0
  • Amazon OxfX61
    It's always business. Do what's best for you now. People are not blacklisted for rejecting comp. They will not pass an awesome talent like u just because u didn't like their comp in past. Be aware that a company can also reject the candidate even after offer and acceptance.
    Mar 22, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn / Eng JpX71hH
      OP already accepted. Backing out after accepting is a bad thing. Really bad thing. It speaks to your level of professionalism.
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Google flwH01
      What jxp said.
      Mar 24, 2018
  • Google nothater
    Yes you should just tell them that. Google can do a lot higher than 250k
    Mar 23, 2018 0
  • Disney disManFucs
    Think about culture and if work life balance is important to you. A little bit extra here and there won’t matter in the long run as other things
    Mar 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon rich93647
    270 is low for SDE3 considering the market right now. I got a better counter than that even at just SDE2. Also better Goog offer. Just FYI, you should have not negotiated with only 1 offer to leverage in the first place, now you have 2 and it's too late.
    Mar 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon ypWG56
      270 is not low for a newly promoted sde3. ~250 is what a newly promoted engineer gets
      Mar 24, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    jdhwhicjeb

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    You're 9 years ex and making 250k. WTF, I'm 3 years snd making 220k at Amazon. Surely you can do much more IMHO.
    Mar 23, 2018 1
    • Apple Elon Musk!
      9 years may not be all in USA or big tech
      Mar 24, 2018
  • Google / Eng gb45oo
    There's no such thing as blacklisting. Politely decline and explain your situation. Even if the recruiter is mad just be nice and move on. Chances are a year or two later Google will come calling again.
    Mar 23, 2018 0
  • Salesforce Void *p
    My friend declined a Google offer after accepting it because the comp wasn’t so great. His recruiter was angry and contacted him a couple of days later: “hey I’ve got you 20% total comp bump, sign it today or it’s gone”. He signed it.
    Mar 23, 2018 4
    • Amazon fly6six
      OP
      Any idea how long after accepting did he/she decline it ?
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Salesforce Void *p
      About 2-3 weeks
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Amazon fly6six
      OP
      Thanks, any idea was it T4 ?
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Oath Swash
      Don’t fall for any of the recruiter tactics though.
      Mar 23, 2018
  • Splunk 10char
    I did the same. They'll understand - happens all the time to companies at that size. They'll likely leave the door open for you! Be nice , and explain to the hiring manager what changed
    Mar 22, 2018 2
    • Amazon fly6six
      OP
      Did the same With Google ?
      Mar 22, 2018
    • Splunk 10char
      Yep.
      Mar 22, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng n0v
    You should leave for Google, but try not to burn Bridges. If you want to go back to Amazon, come back later as L6, with highest base salary.
    Mar 26, 2018 0
  • Beachbody / Product
    gradients

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    I've had some similar conflicts. Considered recinding acceptance due to family reasons. Moving to the bay seemed like a 40k hit after rent and other expenses. My advice is this: the further down the hole you are the greater the confidence you need to have in your goals. You can always change your mind...you are free! And suffer the consequences. These goals should be less about money as the reputation risk increases or you will have regret. That's my rambling thoughts.
    Mar 22, 2018 2
    • Apple saladBar
      Please clarify
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Beachbody / Product
      gradients

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      Which part?
      Mar 23, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    сукаблять

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    Tell Amazon you have a Google offer, await counter, then ask for Google to counter. That leverage can push you to $320k, just apologize for signing early.
    Mar 24, 2018 0
  • Facebook stardust16
    Hi, I am facing a very similar situation, just wonder did you end up with declining the offer or joining Google? Thanks
    Feb 19 0
  • New kJuhH6
    Happened to me today... Coincidentally, got title and salary bump that puts base equal to offer from Uber. No options tho... But yeah COL here is easy 50% of bay area.
    Mar 23, 2018 0
  • Amazon Xjdbh
    Stay and get promotion and reapply to google one level up
    Mar 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft rqNt00
    Doesn’t google give much more stocks on hire ? However they have great annual refreshers which is something to think about
    Mar 22, 2018 0

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