Decreasing SWE new grad TC

Nokia / Eng yappaa
Apr 7 25 Comments

It seems that the TC for Big N companies has decreased in the last 2-3 years. Is it true, or were people earlier pulling out TCs from their asses because there was no platform like Blind earlier?
If true, I am wondering if this is a cyclic thing or is it something to be concerned about? Is it that the "software bubble" is finally bursting?
Would love inputs from experienced people who know about new grad salary trends over the past few years.
Google in Seattle - 104k. Amazon in Seattle - 108k. MSFT - about the same. Wasn't it higher in the past few years?

TC: 0, YOE: 0 :(

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  • Google ovBk62
    TC hasn't decreased. A couple graduating batches just lucked out . Stocks just grew ridiculously in 2016 and 17. For example, Google used to offer 250 GSU to new grads because stock price was 530ish and this would be 125k-ish. But then stock started going up and it took them a while to adjust GSU grants to be same 120-150k range. Now, they offer $ amounts instead of GSU units to new grads at least.
    Apr 7 6
    • Google ovBk62
      No. Base has been increasing consistently. Do you have any examples to support the claim that it is lower?
      Apr 7
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      They're offering 104k for Seattle. Was it lower than this earlier?
      Apr 7
    • Google ovBk62
      What role and what are the educational qualifications?
      Apr 7
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      Masters, for SWE.
      Apr 7
    • Google ovBk62
      Hmm idk, I know people getting significantly more for SWE at Google Seattle with a masters...including this year. Are you sure your sources are correct?
      Apr 7
  • Microsoft gfba68
    Compensation has definitely not gone down. It has gone up quite rapidly.
    Apr 7 4
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      For new grads? Do you have the past numbers? Thanks
      Apr 7
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Yes, I have the past numbers.
      Apr 7
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      Post please? :) I'm new to the TC scene and it seems like, a couple of years back everyone had higher base..
      Apr 7
    • Microsoft gfba68
      no
      Apr 8
  • Microsoft NotNadella
    Microsoft increases new grads’ base salary by about 1-2K every year typically. “Is that enough?” is a completely different question.
    Apr 7 5
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      It's 108k for 2019
      Apr 7
    • Amazon kfsrivd
      It was 115 in 2017
      Apr 7
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      What explains the decrease?
      Apr 7
    • Amazon kfsrivd
      I don't know. Take whatever and job hop later.
      Apr 7
    • New ==<>===
      115 was probably 60, no?
      Apr 8
  • Google nlxS44
    Believe it’s been about the same last few years, 155-160k TC not negotiated for new grad not counting signing. Only change is higher base and lower stock.
    Apr 7 2
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      G offering 104k in Seattle. You think the base was lower earlier? I really doubt..
      Apr 7
    • Google nlxS44
      Don’t know about Seattle. MTV it was 116k last year for base. Year before that is was 112k year before that 110k. Was 105k back in 2014/2015. But I agree I think offers are being reduced in general.
      Apr 7
  • Apple hakunanaMa
    2015 my friends in Seattle started with 102 or 104. But stock has quadrupled too. They got around 400$
    Apr 7 1
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      Would you know why it has remained the same? Also, I hear that the rsu offered have been reduced
      Apr 7
  • Microsoft 80-20
    These are your numbers or from hearsay? If it’s yours, did you negotiate? Were you an intern? I highly doubt that’s TC. Where is the stock grant? Signing bonus?
    Apr 7 1
    • Nokia / Eng yappaa
      OP
      That's just the base pay, from roommate, friends and fellow students I know personally. Also, I've seen posts on leetcode and blind confirming the numbers.
      Apr 7

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