Depressed because of PERM

Cisco JBG18A
May 14 34 Comments

I finished bachelor and master in USA and joined xxx company. My director delayed my PERM and there was almost no salary hike for the last 5 years. Every 6 months, my company told me that they’re going file my PERM. That’s why I’ve been staying in. When I tried to find a job outside of company, I got rejections from other company’s HR because my visa has less than 1 yr left. I think the company I’ve been believing will eventually replace me after my visa expiration. I think I’m going to hold grudges rest of my life. If you are a h1b holder, you need to fight hard to file your PERM

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TOP 34 Comments
  • Oracle pzd
    As they say, fool me once it's on you. Fool me 12 times (for 5 years, once every 6 months) ...
    May 14 5
    • LinkedIn genuine99
      10 times***

      you’re welcome 🤝
      May 14
    • Oracle pzd
      Thanks. off-by-one bugs are haaard.
      May 14
    • LinkedIn genuine99
      😝 indeed!
      May 14
    • Cisco JBG18A
      OP
      Haha I’m really fooled. They didn’t start my case in the first 2 years. PERM was filed on my behalf when I have less than 1 yr visa expiration left but it’s being audited
      May 14
    • LinkedIn genuine99
      Don’t stress yourself up! Keep your hopes high, things will be fine. You’ll get your PERM approved soon!
      May 14
  • Epsilon ySPg80
    I am sorry to hear that, but again, if a company is not initiating your PERM and goofing around, thats when you take no shit and start to jump ships. Why did you wait for such a long time on just a verbal confirmation that they would do it? Between, how much time do you have left on your h1b max out period?
    May 14 0
  • Accenture / Eng __xjwg
    yeah, that's the thing with PERM the employer can use it to keep you. if they do it sooner then the sooner you'll leave the company for better opportunities. my employer applied for it 1year before the max allowed 6years so that they could keep on extending while PERM process is on-going. but they've been good to me like a family and every year i'm getting a salary increase. i started at 80K/year base when i moved to US with 5 YOE. then now i'm at 175K base.

    let your director know that they need to file now because of the 6years limit
    May 14 7
    • Accenture / Eng __xjwg
      13YOE, senior principal level 6 (next step is principal director level 5, then MD)
      May 14
    • Rally Health FuPayMe$$$
      People with half his exp make similar base.
      May 14
    • IBM ybe57s
      At Accenture?
      May 14
    • Oracle pzd
      Certainly not at Accenture.
      May 14
    • New / Eng
      Fun22Tango

      New Eng

      BIO
      Java Programmer- 15 YOE including Android Mobile Developer - 8 YOE.
      Fun22Tangomore
      That's inflated base at 175K in Accenture, despite any role.
      May 14
  • Microsoft 0xFF
    I know a lot of folks in this situation, and I was in it at some point. My advice to you, if a company does not start PERM within 6 months of you joining, move elsewhere. They do not value you enough.
    May 14 2
    • Cisco JBG18A
      OP
      Fooled me first 2 yrs because my director didn’t sign in. Then kept delaying but did a market test. But the law firm rejected to file my case since they found a qualified US candidate. Then delayed another 2 years
      May 14
    • Oracle pzd
      What's done is done. No point in looking back. OP if your company is ready to get real with you this is what they can do - start perm right now. Transfer you to a foreign office to save the last remaining year on your H1B. Then once the perm is approved, apply for H1B extension. (Those are given a year at a time.) Then you come back to US with 2 years on H1B. Immediately file i140 on premium. Concurrently file I485. Stay 6 months more. From that point onward, you are pretty much free agent.

      ETA 2-3 years.
      May 14
  • Broadcom Ltd. ravenwwwe
    Boy you are on shit now. No one will hire you as your PERM will take time after hiring you. Best base for you is work with your manager and request or beg whatever and get your Perm done. Once it is done apply for I140 in premium and get out of the company. You can also try outside and see if someone hires you. Worst case you have to leave the country for one year and come back on same H1 again. So join company which has office in your home country.
    May 14 2
    • Accenture / Eng __xjwg
      this is right. we explored this option too just in case my PERM application is denied and so my H1B gets maxed out. i had to go back to my home country and join a team there for a year or less until i get the new H1B
      May 14
    • Broadcom Ltd. ravenwwwe
      Good Luck!!
      May 14
  • Microsoft UMbR31
    That's brutal brother, is this Cisco!? Never heard this from a megacorporation.
    May 14 1
    • Bloomberg / Eng Eukw16
      Cisco sucks big time on this 3 years back. Not sure it got any better.
      May 14
  • Google PCBro
    Consider Switzerland
    May 14 0
  • Cisco JBG18A
    OP
    Thanks everyone for encouraging me. I really appreciate you all!! I’m depressed because of my circumstance although I worked really hard and have been doing well in many projects. But because of this community today, I feel a bit little better. Many thanks,
    May 14 2
    • New VreM84
      When I had h1b I was kicked out after 5 yrs and 6 months on h1b with no perm or i-140. I know how it feels.
      May 14
    • Oracle pzd
      Honestly, see if you can work from a foreign country for a few months. In your situation, every month you can save will matter, imho.
      May 14
  • PERM as in labor? I-140? I-485?
    May 14 2
    • Oracle pzd
      He probably means labor certification.
      May 14
    • Lol who waits 5 years for labor! Poor OP
      May 14
  • Bloomberg / Eng Eukw16
    Are you talking about Cisco? My friends has a same issue, because of constant layoffs Cisco has to have 6 months cool down period before they file any GC. Before cool down ends, another layoff but they are proactive and able to jump the ship. Sorry for your situation.
    May 14 0
  • RackWare WdGfe4
    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    In your case, just suck it up and ask CISCO to file your PERM. After I-140, GTFO off of there.
    May 15 1
    • Cisco JBG18A
      OP
      I like that quote!
      May 15
  • New / Eng
    SanHolo

    New Eng

    BIO
    Tc = broke. Education: the Derek Zoolander school for kids who can’t read and want to do other stuff good too
    SanHolomore
    You just described slavery..... with extra steps - morty
    May 14 0