Design at Oracle

Oracle / Design gavinB
Mar 18 17 Comments

Are you a designer being recruited by Oracle? Before jumping at an inflated title and showy TC, consider a few things first.
1. At least three of the new hires brought in by Jenny and Hillel have already quit. A couple without another job lined up. Word is more are considering it.
2. Hillel fired many people, but kept the better talent. About 20 of those he kept have since quit anyway rather than put up with him. I’m thinking about it but haven’t started interviewing yet.
3. You’ll probably just work on basic components. Massive Sketch files with every imaginable type and size of button and dropdown.
4. Nobody ever ships anything.
5. You might make a drinking game out of Jenny Lam saying premium and empathy and emotionally resonant and move the needle.
6. If you question anything, you’ll be marginalized almost immediately. Leaders repeatedly say they prefer mediocre talent with a good attitude to amazing talent with a bad attitude. Bad attitude means pushing back.
7. The office is usually half empty. Checking the slack channel every morning for people’s excuses for why they won’t be in is a good source of entertainment.

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  • Adobe VFne54
    🍿
    Mar 18 8
    • Amazon Pandapal
      @gavinB were you there for ixda? It was a surprisingly strong sell from Hillel. Turned out to be one massive recruiting event
      Mar 20
    • Amazon Pandapal
      Btw thanks for taking the time to write this. It’s good to spread the awareness
      Mar 20
    • Oracle / Design gavinB
      OP
      Yes I was there and was conflicted about it because you don’t want to work against your company, yet you want to be wary of bringing other people into something that could really hurt them. I told everyone I chatted with that there was interesting work to be done but to scrutinize it closely and be deliberate in making a decision.

      They’ll still sway young designers to join. It’s decent experience for a junior but gives the wrong impression of how product design works.
      Mar 20
    • Amazon Pandapal
      Ah thanks for being honest! Wondering if you feel this way, are you now looking elsewhere?
      Mar 20
    • Oracle / Design gavinB
      OP
      I’ve started looking but nothing serious yet. I know of several people who are actively interviewing and at least one who’s evaluating offers.
      Mar 20
  • Oracle HCooperboy
    Hey buddy, if you don’t want to be part of our sinking ship, just leave! You knew well ahead that we are all here to rest-and-vest.
    Mar 18 0
  • Oracle Jenny Lamb
    I have zero empathy for your emotionally resonant post and I would pay a premium to move the needle into a voodoo doll of all toxic people like you. #VagPowr
    Mar 18 0
  • Oracle / Mgmt iSvI31
    OP is pretty accurate!
    Mar 27 0
  • Oracle / Design :.:.:
    I’ve gotten a lot out of my time at Oracle but there’s a non-trivial amount of weird and frustrating stuff here. Room to do interesting work if you like enterprise type complexity, but the politics can be deflating.
    Mar 19 0
  • Oracle / Design MiddleWest
    This doesn’t even account for things that have happened on the cloud/OCI side of the design org. Bunch of other silliness there that’s been maddening for more than a few.
    Mar 23 0
  • Microsoft Google U
    What are the specific reasons people have left?
    May 6 0
  • Cisco doomNgloom
    Are they hiring designers in Austin yet? I’ve seen generic sourcing reqs for it. Seems like an interesting opportunity to get in on the ground floor of something new there. Or not?
    Apr 23 0
  • Oracle / Design MiddleWest
    For as frustrated as I’ve been, at times, during my tenure at Oracle, I do believe design leadership has tried to do it right in a company that’s hardly had a serious design culture. Some decisions along the way were wrong, certainly. And that could be extremely upsetting. My experience on the OCI side was...up and down.

    There’s still tons of opportunity though overall at Oracle, and plenty of fascinating work to be done. In the long run I think it’ll be a good place for many.
    Mar 27 0

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