Did I just lowball myself?

Hulu TrNf5340
Nov 11 19 Comments

Had a phone interview today (non-FAANG which BTW they stole Amazon's LPs & interview process & posed it as their own) & it went great. At the end of the interview the recruiter asked for my salary requirement and I said $175k. Then she asked is that TC or base & me being stupid enough said TC and she said we could work that out. My current TC is $135k (all base; no deductions other than tax). The company is not public so no RSUs. I'm guessing their TC is only base & bonus.

How badly did I screw myself? Trolls go ahead and 😂 at me all you want I'm sure I deserve it. I was thinking about telling them I have an offer for $190k & see if they'll counter. TBH not super excited to work for them anyways so even if they say no I won't be too heartbroken but for future how should I negotiate salary when the recruiter won't give a range and will push for me to tell mine?

Position: TPM (Program)
Location: LA

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TOP 19 Comments
  • Amazon OyQW43
    Just don’t answer expected tc
    Nov 11 7
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      So how do I answer? What do I say? How do I say it?
      Nov 11
    • Facebook an0nymouse
      “I’m looking for a market appropriate compensation for this role.” “I’m very excited about this company and am looking for market rate compensation. How about you send me the initial offer and I will get back to you once I see my other offers / talk to family / etc”

      The key is don’t be afraid of awkward silences. If they already interviewed you, they won’t drop you just cuz you didn’t name a rate.
      Nov 11
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      Really? I did have an awkward moment today hence the panic and the number. Thanks so much! This is very helpful.
      Nov 11
    • Snapchat QaH7er3PxL
      Just say can't comment on that lol. What's the issue?
      Nov 12
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      In the past when I did that it backfired on me and they disqualified me. Now that I look back I see that the recruiter was a b* & the company was 💩
      Nov 12
  • Microsoft groupToo
    Don't sweat it. Get a competing offer, that is the easiest fix, and next time avoid that question with a non answer like "I just want a competitive pay with the usual 20-30% bump, not looking for something outrageous like 500k".

    If that doesn't work make up a story about how your current employer is willing to match/exceed offer (may only work once)
    Nov 11 1
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      Thank you! I'll be sure to try that. In the past I've said something like: I'm looking for $190k since my current salary is $175 so I want something more, even though they're not supposed to ask for my current salary and it has worked. This way they know I won't go under $175k.
      Nov 11
  • Microsoft Beepbopyip
    Yoe?
    Nov 11 3
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      I have a very low TC I know so please don't 😂 at me (or do). I'm a crossover to IT/Tech; Total yoe: 14; IT/Tech: 9
      Nov 11
    • Microsoft Beepbopyip
      You are going to be unhappy if you keep reading blind. I'd suggest deleting this thread and moving on with life.. life > tc
      Nov 11
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      Completely agree with you that life > TC but I also need to think about retirement. I'm not exactly a 20 year old (or 30 years old)
      Nov 11
  • LinkedIn tjNJ73
    When you’re not ready just say “I need to do some research before I give you a range”. That will buy you some time
    Nov 11 1
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      Thank you! But I don't want to come off unprepared
      Nov 11
  • Microsoft panamap
    Remember if a company pays you lower than everyone at that level - at some point they will have issues , because the midpoint will drag down and it would be unfair . So I remember someone who asked me X$ and we were hiring her for L61 and she is from East coast , she was moving to Redmond . We at Microsoft gave her 2 times of what she asked for , because that was the midpoint at that level . So “good” companies are fair and don’t care about what you are making or what you ask for , when low, they will give you the midpoint which is the fair option.
    Nov 11 1
    • Hulu TrNf5340
      OP
      Thank you very much! However, I feel your statement is true for FAANG & other big companies but not everyone else. Smaller companies don't go by that standard. They try to low ball you until they get big enough that they can't get away with it
      Nov 11
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    You landed at the wrong foot when you are just beginning negotiations... but on the positive side it’s still an increase in TC.
    Nov 11 0

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