Did anyone here immigrate to Australia after getting tired of GC backlog?Dec 4, 2018
I'm not interested in moving back to India. Thanks to pollution, corruption and ugly political scenario.
With GC for Indians taking several decades to clear, I'm considering to move elsewhere. Canada is one good alternative. I'm also interested in Australia.
Which US tech companies have reasonable engineering presence in Australia?
- Born and raised in Sydney. Like other people have said, very limited tech wise. I mean, salaries are terrible and cost of living is high, but more importantly, career progression is nil, there are no real tech companies besides Google.
People there think being in tech means being a data analyst or some other bullshit role at some place like PwC, EY etc. with a bunch of mediocre SQL monkeys.
- I thought they were solutions engineers / DevOps? I saw some roles that were advertised as SWE, but it didn't seem like they were.
I know the MS office in Sydney also has some support roles for Azure that are called SWE. I could be wrong though, it's been a while since I checked.
- What I am working on is as advanced as my counterparts in the USA.
My point is that engineers tend to talk up what they do thinking it is something amazing based solely on how much they are being paid. How can you even compare what we do to something like CERN and physicists are certainly not paid like this.
Tech in Australia is mostly no different to USA. Our stacks are either kubernetes/kafka or aws cloud native and we all have a machine learning team of some kind using tensorflow/neural nets/whatever.
Just stop acting like u are saving the world building yet another consumer app.
- I wasn't talking about pay, nor am I talking about saving the world.
Also, surely you realize that someone has to do the hard work of actually building those platforms and ML frameworks you're using right? I work on distributed systems, building the kinds of systems you're talking about, not just plumbing apis from off the shelf software.
Look at AWS for example, all the actual AWS engineers are in the US.
Building Kubernetes is very very different to just using it.
- Well, I never said I was building ML frameworks, but yes, I used to be in academia, haha. Actually, most of the cutting edge work in DS is coming from work at companies like Google and FB.
Stop projecting your own insecurities on the whole industry. We don't all just do API plumbing for a living, and even that is a lot more complicated than it sounds at Google/FB scale.
- How am I projecting my own insecurities? You are talking shit about Australia saying that there is nothing going on here and everyone is a code monkey. My point is that is not true and the 99% of development jobs in USA and Australia will be doing practically the same work with the same tools and technologies.
- That's not what I said at all, let me quote myself, with emphasis:
"People there THINK being in tech means being a data analyst ..."
I.e., my comment was more on the size of the "tech industry" in Australia being heavily dictated by these kinds of roles, and the cultural attitude in Australia towards the tech industry.
Also, this is Blind, it doesn't represent 99% of the tech jobs in either of these countries, because these are the types of jobs that basically anyone can get with little prior experience.
Like I said, there are plenty of shitty roles on both countries, I'm just saying the most rewarding and interesting roles are a LOT more available in the US than Sydney.
OP is an engineer at Microsoft, I highly doubt he's interested in being a sysadmin for some random Australian website, even though that counts as being in the tech industry.
- Yes I agree, I used to work in Sydney and worked with some of the most talented engineers that I've worked with there, but it was a very small org, and small scale.
And that's part of the problem. Because talented engineers are few and far between, people think the tech industry is all these other roles that have nothing to do with engineering.
Also unfortunately for my area (distributed systems), scale is a prerequisite for interesting problems.
- Just pick anything publicly traded. We don't get shares though btw. We quote base then there's an implied +8-10% bonus, plus mandatory +9.5% retirement fund. So all up more like 150 USD.
Getting sponsored can be hard. I think most ppl get sponsored by a not great company for lower wage and then pivot ASAP.
- Good quality of life but not a lot of good tech jobs. If you wanna start a family or just take it easy and enjoy life, go for it.
- What's the motivation to go to Australia? Like how do you arrive at a random choice like that? Did you throw darts on a map?
- IBM SadhguruLooked at Canada. The number of jobs are quite less. A rudimentary job check on major giants website is like this.
If 100 jobs for the US, 10 for India, 1 in Canada. I maybe wrong but this is what I felt