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Differences among Google's application engineer, SETI sand SWE job positions

What are the work and pay differences among Google's application engineer, SETI and SWE job positions

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Bose justme2k19 Feb 24, 2019

SETI - tests and automation. SWE - developer . Application engineer - customer facing role AFAIK . Pay probably seti = application engineer < SWE

Proofpoint singson Feb 24, 2019

SETI is development of tools and infrastructure. Its not testing and automation. Also they are on the same pay band as SWE.

Google uYhx7 Feb 24, 2019

Application Engineer < SETI < SWE

Google tzhsh Feb 24, 2019

Curious how you rank SRE. Both SWE-SRE and SE-SRE.

Google uYhx7 Feb 24, 2019

In my experience SWE, SETI, SWE-SRE and SE-SRE can be pretty similar in terms of TC etc., performance, level and PAs seem to be more important for those roles.

Google 3743676 Feb 24, 2019

SWE > SETI > Application Engineer SWE can jump to SETI without hc review. To move to SWE from SETI you have to go through HC. SWEs are paid more. I've seen SETI and application engineer contractors. But not for SWEs. SWE has a higher bar (evident from hc review needed to transfer to that ladder). SWE and SWE-SREs have similar bar and TC.

Google uYhx7 Feb 24, 2019

SETIs can do evidence-based ladder transfers, no?

Google 3743676 Feb 24, 2019

But still goes through HC review. Just that instead of interview feedback, your projects are used and feedback from senior engineers is used.

Proofpoint singson Feb 24, 2019

SETI is like building the robot in a car factory. SWE and SRE is building the product(car) and the systems on that car. SRE in this case helpd with connectivity of the car to the outside world and building the infra that the car platform runs on.

Google 3743676 Feb 24, 2019

SWE is like building the car and it's systems. SWE-SREs know how it's built and provide you with a scalable robot to do that. And save your ass when something goes wrong. SETIs create a track, where you can crash test your car. They won't crash it for you, just provide the infrastructure and show you how it's done. Application engineers will make sure internal system where employees clock in and out is in place and working. 😂😂 At Amazon, all of them will be called SDEs. 😂😂😂😂

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3blxqv Feb 24, 2019

So to clarify, SWEs also build robots to run their apps on like (kubernetes,borg or any cloud backends which are not client facing)? And SETIs build only testing track and integration of apps into this testing track. What kind of exciting testing infrastructures are there or is being worked on now? Do application engineers also work on things like recruiting tool? What’s the official title if not SWE? There are so many titles at Google that seems to create this notion of hierarchy, is this implicitly shared among engineers?