Does anyone work at a company where Diversity & Inclusion is not a shitshow? I have friends who work in D&I at big tech companies and stories sound same to what i see here: bullshit, optics, dysfunction. I’m genuinely curious if any company is really doing the work.
Nah, I get enough being told that, as a straight white Male, I'm worth less than everyone else off the clock.
How can that be, as a straight white male you are paid more than everyone else by the virtue of your skin tone alone
He’s oppressed because he has to make some room for others at the table. That’s his idea of discrimination. What a loser.
Definitely a problem here.
I saw handouts MGM Resorts had for their new D&I program and it looked super legit. Addressed unconscious bias, privilege... but then I’m also a white dude so take what I say with a grain of salt. Too bad it got pushed to the side by their new money-making initiative.
Oh and the lady who heads up the program is a woman of color too so I imagine that helps with perspective.
Everyone is responsible for D&I. Complaining about what your company is doing or not will not get us anywhere especially if everyone on your team looks the same. If you are a hiring manager the buck stops with you on D&I. And if you are a junior SWE who interviews candidates, the buck stops with you too. You demand diversity and proactively cultivate it and don’t settle. Recruiters listen to you guys and if you don’t do your part this D&I thing will be just a bunch of glossies that check the box.
So what does junior SWE have to do during interview?
I've seen this answer alot, so I'll just pick it apart lightly but I'm just stating I'm not against your opinion. In fact I'm all for it. That said, let's say the person of color interviewing is performing very good, but not better than a white male interviewing. Do I not hire the most skilled person? What does it matter from a business perspective if they were disadvantaged and didnt have opportunity? That's a societal problem to fix, not the business. Maybe for larger companies a difference can be made but for everyone who's not a FAANG or struggling with revenue? Now's not the time. What about team dynamic? My team is full of people who may not want a person of color on it. They may perform not as well, or worse, openly taunt this person and leave us open to discrimination lawsuits. Do I risk that? In many cases forced diversity programs will hurt a bottomline. Not because people of color are any worse, as a matter of fact they may be more hard working and driven, but you cannot change societal levels norms in an organization. You cant affect society from inside a company, so then change must at least come from the top, the C-level or close to the top. But are we going to fire most of the white male executives in the industry? Who've made all the money thus far and who control the most money? No. But should we start pressuring them there? Absolutely. Putting undue stress on hiring managers who also need to put food on the table and who are the first who will be asked why a team is performing worse is not who we should target. The shift in responsibility from leader to worker is not normal, not fair, and I personally think a disgusting way to distance from making the hard business decisions I stated above.
Diversity is good as it promotes more meshy style networks, but fuck it breaks down when people cluster in to groups, don't talk common language. Screeching about white males just irks me, I look white yeah but I'm in the trenches just like every other engineer, also can't imagine it helps, but rather agitates the divisions
It's has become a weapon to exploit for the ultra feminists
really? When I read statements like these I think that we have a long way to go in educating people on what real D&I looks like.
It’s super important at my company but who has time to participate with the heavy workload? So...I suppose it is a shitshow.
Time is such a key piece.....trying to squeeze in time on all fronts is a huge challenge.
Sooo much bullshit in D&I. When someone tries to get them to do the actual work, they lash out and circle the wagons. You wouldn't believe the things I've seen up close and personal. Sad, really.
I would be interested in knowing what some of the roadblocks are that you've encountered - what circling the wagons looks like.
It varies for me. Some teams don't get it. They think it's about color and sex. You can have a team of ten guys named Ron and still be diverse and inclusive of everyone on that team. I worked on one team that got it. They were all white men, except 2 black guys and one woman. The most diverse and inclusive team I worked on, why? Because it was a core value, and they all believed in it. We learned about each other and utilized our strengths. No one was left out. That's D&I, teamwork.
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Nah it’s sitting around listening to privileged white men pretending to care and privileged white women leveraging it to gain power. Most minorities sit around in their offices while this happens at Apple. Asian diversity doesn’t count. Also biracial/multiracial diversity.
Sounds about right lol
We’re supposed to be leading the charge too lmfao