i hate all the blind posts saying that the bar is lowered for minorities. can i ask HR for my interview scores to put this to rest once and for all?
Most interviewers don’t give a shit (at least I don’t) what race the candidate is. If they suck they suck and if they are good they are good. Candidates are usually scored based on rubrics. It’s a meritocratic interview system.
At Google too? Forced diversity quotas are a well known fact at Microsoft
Huge parts of the hiring process are designed to eliminate that. Also you shouldn’t even use the phrase “diversity hire” because it is BS. We do put extra recruiting effort in at schools / events that have underrepresented people but at best that gets you a phone screen. It definitely doesn’t get you any other passes.
I interviewed more than 100 SWE candidates and I never saw anyone caring about diversity during the hiring process. As far as I understand, Google tries to increase the number of minority candidates participating in the process but once it starts there is no special treatment.
That's good. At MSFT there are multiple layers throughout process which help enforce diversity. They make the process very hard to pass on a diversity candidate. They even have bonus incentives tied to diversity quota stats.
That's unfortunate. The Google method seems better: increase the exposure to Diversity candidates. But keep the same bar for everyone. Net outcome: diversity rate is higher, merit level is the same.
Last year my wife’s friend told her their team at Microsoft want to hire 10 women in that quarter and asked her to apply.
In most cases in tech, diversity hire doesn’t mean you interviewed badly and still got hired. It’s more like, “the opportunity for you to interview was given on a diversity basis, and denied to a non-diverse person.” Google has openly stated that while the hiring bar isn’t lowered, they actively seek out diverse people to put in the pipeline. Worded another way, it might be easier for a black, Latino, female etc person to get the interview in the first place than white/Asian male, given that individuals of the mentioned ethnicities/genders have the same qualifications. “[...] we unapologetically try to find a diverse pool of qualified candidates for open roles” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/ex-recruiter-accuses-google-hiring-discrimination-against-white-asian-men-n853601
Diversity hire means: sorry we are on a hiring freeze, sorry we have no head counts, etc, only for an Asian dude.
No company I’ve ever worked at gave passes for the job it self. Sure they may look harder to find candidates, go to schools, have outreach programs, have targeted goals, etc. but the interview was an interview. Now the one thing I have seen/experienced is minorities having HARDER interviews because the interviewer is biased against them or doesn’t believe they know what they are doing and ask more and harder questions then they would of a white engineer.
This. Happens more than anyone will admit.
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