Do Product Managers and Eng make more for the same level?

Airbnb 💯💯!
Jul 7 20 Comments

Say L5 vs L5: who has better TC?
I’m under the impression in FAANG and Uber/LinkedIn/Airbnb it’s the same, but people kept telling me PMs make less. Is it true?

TC: 600+

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  • Uber hardkore
    At Uber, level wise they make the same. Generally speaking, PMs have many more yoe at the same level than eng.
    Jul 7 1
    • Airbnb 💯💯!
      OP
      Really? Hm so L5B eng at uber is typically 6-10yoe; PM is way more?
      Jul 7
  • Facebook ExPo20
    At FB they make less, at Uber it was roughly the same.
    Jul 7 5
    • Airbnb 💯💯!
      OP
      How much less? Is it primarily in terms of salary or equity?
      Jul 7
    • Facebook ExPo20
      Mostly equity. It is about 70-80%
      Jul 7
    • Airbnb 💯💯!
      OP
      Interesting. I was told at LinkedIn it’s the same.
      It’s an interesting paradox: many eng complain that PMs run the show, but it looks like in many cases they make less?
      Jul 7
    • Amazon
      kcc

      Amazon

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      Uber
      kccmore
      Visibility and influence is not equal to TC. An extreme example is US president or any senator, they run the show, but TC is not that high
      Jul 7
    • Facebook ExPo20
      Fair point
      Jul 7
  • Google NSFW4
    Jesus 600
    Jul 7 1
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Much of it is paper money tho, assuming OP is actually at Airbnb.
      Jul 7
  • Google / Ops Huhf13
    A lot of SWEs on Blind are butthurt. Most PMs and SWEs have similar market reference points.

    The other aspect of this is ease of attaining level.
    Jul 7 3
    • Google NSFW4
      You mean the 600 is common for swe/pm at fang ?
      Jul 7
    • Airbnb 💯💯!
      OP
      Do you think Eng or pm have more ease of attaining a certain level?
      Jul 7
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      If you are an L6 or L7, sure it's common.
      Jul 10
  • New pawpaw
    Curious - have you guys ever worked with a pm with non technical background?
    Jul 7 2
    • Airbnb 💯💯!
      OP
      Most PMs don’t have technical backgrounds
      Jul 7
    • Uber / Eng #muga
      Almost all PM’s at Uber don’t have technical background
      Jul 7
  • Google cEMj22
    OP,. Are you L6? This is insane TC for L5
    Jul 9 1
  • Amazon
    kcc

    Amazon

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    Uber
    kccmore
    Uber is special that many PM coming from ops. I honestly find most PM at Uber are useless. Product-ops is way more useful
    Jul 7 0