Do people from Pakistan not get along with people from India in US?

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I have someone in my org who is from Pakistan. we recently hired a manager over him and she is from India. The guy from Pakistan wants to change teams cause he fears that the new manager may be biased against him.

Has anyone faced something like this?

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    I am not mixing politics with work. I am trying to stay far away from it. I was given a sort of crash course in history from one of my other Indian peer.

    But I have to make a call if I should let him move. I don’t want to set a precedent that this is acceptable. Specially, because she has yet to join the team and had done nothing which can be categorized as discrimination.
    Sep 14 16
    • Amazon None!!
      Banana boy here , I agree with google partially but since the employee openly mentioned the reasoning behind his need to move, that is discriminatory (political). If he gave some bullshit reason like personal reasons then this dilemma wouldn’t have existed in the first place
      Sep 14
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      Yup. If his reasoning was, I wanna just try something else, we would not be having this conversation.

      But his reasoning is discriminatory. He is discriminating based on national origin. And for the record, national origin is a protected class as well Google. But, hey why don’t you Google it? Try dogfooding once in a while 😆

      https://www.workplacefairness.org/national-origin-discrimination
      Sep 14
    • Google kill -9
      It's not protected when you are deciding if you want to take a job. What, if someone quite because they don't want to work for someone because of their race, gender, etc are you seriously suggesting they can be sued for *not* working for someone?
      Sep 14
    • Bet he's lying and doesn't want to work for an Indian woman...
      Sep 14
    • Google Mr. GIass
      My guess is that it's an ego thing. I agree with Uber. I have a feeling his ego can't handle working for an Indian woman
      Sep 14
  • HPE vy123
    Dont mix politics with work. There is nothing wrong with people of pakistan or india. It's the politicians who create that atmosphere. That person seems to be way too immature to mix politics and work.
    Sep 14 0
  • Amazon / Mgmt N8rh4a
    The governments of Pakistan and India do not go along well but people of these countries do not have an issue with each other especially in an America.
    Sep 14 1
    • Indeed / Eng
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      That was my understanding as per my peer. I think he may be overreacting with all that is in the news.
      Sep 14
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    • Oracle pzd
      I can only confirm the first statement - Indian people seem to like to surround themselves with Indians.
      Sep 14
    • Walmart QTFP86
      I do not like working with some Indians but it got nothing to do with their country of origin, certainly I will not stereotype. Cap one person has put a lot of hate and stereotype cramped into single post. Cap One ewQk18’s post is worth flagging.
      Sep 14
    • Microsoft / Eng coolbloke
      Every ethnicity behaves this way. You guys haven't seen Russian mafia before. Indo chinese are school kids in front of those.
      Sep 14
    • Cisco mosalahh
      @Indeed Is ^Walmart a snowflake now?
      Meet your second 'snowflake'
      Sep 14
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      Cisco I have no clue where these people are working, I am only glad, I don’t work there :)
      Sep 14
  • Cisco mosalahh
    It's easy to conclude with all the hate posts you see on a forum where mostly educated people discuss anonymously. So, yes, they don't. And, yes, better to switch teams.
    Sep 14 6
    • Cisco mosalahh
      Okay, wait to see him leave for better opportunities if he feels biased.
      Sep 14
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      That’s his call. No one is indispensable. Not him, nor I.
      Sep 14
    • Cisco mosalahh
      Just curious about the point of the post. Were you just looking to hear if someone was in a similar situation as you?
      Sep 14
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      Yeah. I have had folks come and asked to be moved for various reasons. Some have had bad experiences with their manager, others felt that a different team may give them a better chance at being successful.

      But this is a first, and that too when the other person has not even joined so there hasn’t been any kind of discrimination.

      I will probably take it up with HR on Monday. But was wondering if anyone here in leadership had anything like this happen to them with this specific example.
      Sep 14
    • Cisco mosalahh
      Got you. Thanks for elaborating.
      Sep 14
  • Microsoft UMbR31
    Fake news
    Sep 14 0
  • At certain companies (looking at you Cisco) the politics is very racially divided. So yeah, then your Pakistani friend would likely experience a lot of discrimination from an Indian manager.

    Know a few Pak colleagues who had that experience at Cisco. One was even asked where Osama was hiding (by his Indian manager), complained to HR which didn’t do anything.

    But at other companies you don’t have any discrimination whatsoever. 🤷‍♂️
    Sep 14 3
    • Amazon hydfb
      Ya jokingly calling your subordinate a terrorist because of their ethnic background is a huge no-no. Can't believe HR did nothing, that's just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
      Sep 14
    • Walmart QTFP86
      Back to point, did he know where osama was hiding? How was it?
      Sep 14
    • @Amazon Yeah so, HR moved him to a different team but the racist manager got promoted to Director (boss’s boss), and the first thing he did was fire him.

      So the Pak guy sued and they settled out of court. 🤷‍♂️
      Sep 14
  • LinkedIn dontdo
    I'm Pakistani. There is no question of not getting along well. I have Indian manager and he is coolest manager I ever had.
    In the end, it comes down to professionalism.
    Just don't talk cricket or Kashmir at work and he will be fine :)
    And btw, Indian democracy could have popped someone better then Modi :)
    Sep 14 1
    • Cisco mosalahh
      It's funny how you cracked a joke about Indian politician but suggested to not about Kashmir!
      Sep 14
  • NVIDIA xzgt78
    I have two close friends from Pakistan. I met them in grad school and we get along very well. They have helped me in my professional career (internships and jobs) and in my personal life when I was going through a hard time.

    We are able to have serious conversations about a lot of things including issues that are politically contentious between India and Pakistan. When I was back in India, I didn't think I will have close friends from Pakistan considering I was brought up in a family that doesnt "trust" Pakistanis.

    I am from the north of India and on certain aspects, I have found more cultural similarity (food, music, etc) with Pakistanis than with friends from the south of India.
    Sep 14 0
  • Wayfair / Eng life rm-rf
    They will get along until they become comfortable with each other and talk about politics.
    Sep 14 1
    • Uber has7ydh
      Lool, everyone knows they'll never talk politics. We all know where the other stands in those conversations
      Sep 14
  • Uber LEMn17
    Some Pakistanis may care a lot more about this; happens when the raison d-etre for your country is “not India”.

    Most are able to see beyond the othering. That this person does not is a sign of immaturity & gullibility.
    Sep 14 0
  • Microsoft nchB44
    I was in a team (mostly Indians) led by a Pakistani. We never felt any kind of discrimination or bias even when things went south between the 2 countries.

    I had peers from Pakistan, the conversations were mainly to understand how some things were so different and how some were the same.

    Your peer is overreacting. Every 4th guy in software is an Indian, he better change his attitude or LC every few months🤣
    Sep 14 0
  • Snapchat / Other dudeLA
    I've Pakistani friends and I'm Indian I tell you we are actually same and we get along really well. The different is just created by politics.
    Sep 14 0
  • eBay youknow2
    I had a friend from Pakistan in grad school who was better than a lot of Indians in my batch. I don’t care if the person is Indian or Pakistani however, few people do. Also, totally my opinion but I feel Pakistanis care about it more than Indians.
    Sep 14 0
  • Google Krepton
    When I came to the US, I decided to keep all my historical problems out of my new life. It helps a lot, especially if the other side does that too

    That being said, maybe the guy is overreacting and maybe not.
    Sep 14 0
  • Verizon / Eng 8BitGuy
    Pretty common! Please let him move!
    Sep 15 0