Do tech companies (Amazon, Apple, IBM, Google, Facebook) pay lip service to hiring veterans or not?

New / IT Boozhound
Jul 12 16 Comments

I see a lot of companies say they want to hire veterans, but when I dig deeper into their hiring practices, it seems like they're only paying lip service.

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  • Dropbox / Eng kMhc18
    Veteran or not, they still have to pass the interview. And they’re competing with civilians with CS degrees from top tier schools.

    You can say the same for hiring from coding boot camps.
    Jul 12 5
    • New / IT Boozhound
      OP
      Why would you even remotely think my post implued that one's veteran status meant hiring them without merit? 🙄😒
      Jul 12
    • Dropbox / Eng kMhc18
      My point is that it’s the same “funnel” problem that exists for women and people of color in tech. The few that attempt to interview are still competing with the (predominantly white or Asian male) CS grads from elite schools and ex-FAANG.

      It’s a sampling problem because the system is biased towards internships for MIT/Stanford students for L1/L2 and industry hires (from FAANG) for L3+. So it’s hard for people outside this bubble to get in.
      Jul 12
    • New / IT Boozhound
      OP
      Ok, that's a lot more constructive than your earlier response. However, like my original post stated, these companies have actual HR Recruiting programs to hire qualified veterans. Of which they like to promote as part of what makes their companies so "cool", forward looking, socially aware, and patriotic.
      Jul 12
    • SolarWinds AnEngineer
      If you have the chops then you don't need to fall back on your veteran status to get the interview.

      If you don't have the chops then you won't make it past the interview regardless of background.

      What exactly are you looking for here? Some sort of leg up? Please elaborate.
      Jul 12
    • Amazon ijustcant
      I think Dropbox just explained pretty clearly why the veteran programs are necessary. Recruiters are generally making screening decisions based on a “type” (e.g. recent grads, x years experience in tech, MBA from top school, etc). Veteran doesn’t tend to match the “type” they have in their head, may fit with different roles than other applicants, and generally are in a less “dense” recruiting source than, say, hiring fairs for engineering undergrads. Veteran-specific recruiters know how to parse a veteran’s experience, and can connect them to jobs that benefit from their unique skills. No one’s looking for a leg up or a job their not qualified for.
      Jul 12
  • Apple pandas_df
    Could you explain how you dug deeper?
    Jul 12 1
    • New / IT Boozhound
      OP
      If you go to their career fairs, recruiters are clueless about their own veteran hiring programs. Go to Google's website for hiring veterans and hyperlinks don't work properly, no one returns emails from the listed contacts, etc. Talk to employers at the companies and they couldn't tell your veteran they work with.
      Jul 12
  • IBM / Eng namastayyy
    What makes you think IBM is a tech company??
    Jul 12 0
  • Amazon WallaceSLA
    If you’re a veteran you get an interview almost automatically. Still have to pass the interview like anyone else. Once in the room we don’t care if they are veteran or not we care about what leadership they have. But make no mistake recruiters pass every veteran on for an interview so that part is true.
    Jul 12 0
  • Uber yamimo
    Uber has veteran ERG and has a lot of successful veterans in ops.
    Jul 12 0
  • Credit Karma ckftw
    Military folks end up in operations.
    Jul 12 0
  • Samsung statarb
    Veterans are very disciplined and have well honed leadership skills which are very helpful in tech or for that matter any business. The only issue is they are used to following a chain or command and this habit takes a while to undo. With the right mentorship, these guys and gals make a serious impact to the top line. I also have several friends who were great in school (kick ass grades and class contributions) and now work in FAANG. I would say Amazon is leading the pack when it comes to hiring veterans. If you are a veteran, reach out to other former service members who work there. I don’t think the bar is lower for hiring veterans. My veteran colleagues will give you a run for your money. They were stellar in every way.
    Jul 12 0
  • Verizon / Other
    Merkiltumo

    Verizon Other

    BIO
    Nothing I could type or not type would or wouldn’t tel someone who I was or wasn’t.
    Merkiltumomore
    General recruiters or those that get stuck at the career fair may not be the real vet team just the ones who were in the area.
    I believe most companies do well with a few vets and other recruiting efforts but also get overwhelmed by the volume and can’t respond to them all or work with them all.
    Apply for a job you are qualified for and indicate your are a vet and likely you’ll have a better chance then anyone similarly qualified to get to talk to someone. Typically a vet will be flagged and skip in line to be looked at and if they meet some level of competence for that job move forward.
    Jul 12 0
  • IBM / Eng LeavingIBM
    I personally know a veteran who works in our org I can ask them more about the program if you want to dm me
    Jul 12 0