I was debating with someone in Blind about China being far behind any other developed nation but a (probably) Chinese person from Snapchat claimed following: “It is common sense right now Taiwan and Hongkong is already far far left behind by mainland. And countless young people from Taiwan and Hongkong are relocating to mainland to work every year. The whole Technology industry, either from the scale or from the compensation wide, China is no less than US right now. One main topic in Chinese Engineer community in US every day is whether it is time to go home to” I find it hard to believe. Taiwan has more than 3x higher GDP per capita than China as well. When my friend traveled Asian countries last year, it was clear to him Japan is a top notch, Korea is behind but not too far and China was well below in almost every way as a tourist. I also have many friends who studied or worked at China and it is common sense China has a long way to go before it claims it is even on par with recently (almost) developed nations like Taiwan. I mean when a country is developed enough, people start caring about how they look (not just rich people or someone in entertainment business), develop more interest towards social activity, have wide interest in entertainment and arts, try to maintain good manner, medical and environment become higher importance. Engineers in US with high salary who came from China tend to belong to upper middle class so these people are different (even then it is apparent they don’t care about these as much). I think China has shown incredible growth and will become a better country. It will surpass Taiwan for example someday for average quality for living condition. But I feel that it is too early to claim it is there already. My Chinese friends mention that the salary in China is far behind US as well. There are a few engineers who joined Baidu and Tencent early to make a great money but I can’t imagine new grads getting 150k in China.
Guy on snapchat is a totally delusional Chinese nationalist.
🤔Pay is relative to cost of living and quality of living. Beijing already tops the list as being the top tech hub. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chynes/2017/11/02/has-beijing-unseated-silicon-valley-as-the-worlds-top-tech-hub-one-report-says-yes/ Rent is definitely higher but food is better. China has 20x as much of consumer data than US. All these data makes machine learning opportunities everywhere. So there’s quite a lot of opportunities in this area
I'm last year or so so things are changing in China, investor money is drying up so comp is going down. New projects are not well funded. I see Taiwan equivalent of a teir 1 Chinese City.
This is a blindly patriotic mainlander who is trying to deceive you. HK and Taiwan still have a much higher standard of living for the middle class than the mainland, and a -lot- more freedoms.
Silly to compare HK/TW with mainland. Mainland population is 70 times as Taiwan. Coastal line mainland has 500 million people and living standards are the same as TW.
Taiwan's living quality is better than any city in China.. (I'm a Chinese who now working in Taiwan for 3yrs)
Guess what happens when a country with a scale like China become a developed nation?Statically speaking the cost of living is way lower in China now. We have higher TC here thanks to USD’s world dominance back by our strong military. In a foreseeable future when a new world order establishes, there will be a dramatic change. And that Made in China 2025 plan and their growing infrastructure are pretty interesting
Obviously geeks here who can only code and masturbate without woman would never have a big-scale vision for geopolitics.
Average tech salary in China, even Shenzhen is still a lot lower than US (like 40-50K in Shenzhen or thereabouts). But for superstars at big companies, I've heard some astronomical numbers (Like 5-10M RMB). So definitely competitive, if not higher, at the elite level.
People make 40-50k USD in Shenzhen? That's the same as Tokyo with 1/3 the living costs!
Housing cost in Shenzhen is higher than San Fran.
Shame on you. Winnie the Pooh will censor you when you go back to China.
First Taiwan is NOT a nation, second Taiwan is so backward like China in 90s
I’m Taiwanese and can confirm that we are not a nation but a part of China as described in our constitution: Republic of China. Taipei is equivalent to tier 2 cities in the mainland in terms of infrastructure while the rest of Taiwan is far less developed and more like lower tier 2 to tier 3 cities. The average city in Taiwan resembles a small county seat in the mainland (we are much smaller after all, the size of a small province). Social services in Taiwan are better though because we have higher per capita income. It’s not fair to compare Taiwan to all of mainland China because invariably cities like Shanghai are going to be more impressive. But if you compare Taiwan with say Fujian you have a more apples to apples comparison and Taiwan actually looks pretty good.
Consider two factors 1 cost of living is low 2 big cities are way more developed than smaller ones