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Does FANNG suffer from reverse racism and sexism?

Amazon jsyhrju367
Nov 25

During technical interviews, adjusting for all other factors, is the bar lowered for women and minorites?

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  • Nvidia zVEC05
    The bar is lowered; but that’s not “reverse racism & sexism”, it’s just racism & sexism.
    Nov 250
  • The New York Times moony
    Use of the term "unfair advantage" in that third option I think will bias your results.
    Nov 255
    • Pegasystems BernieSand
      Thanks, NYT. Expert in doing things like this
      Nov 25
    • Chase / Design✴️
      It makes me inexplicably happy to see NYT on here.
      Nov 25
    • Apple ento
      OMG! The times is here. You all rock!
      Nov 26
    • The New York Times moony
      :) this is the nicest anyone has ever been to anyone on Blind.
      Nov 26
    • Amazon jsyhrju367
      OP
      Yeah I did it on purpose fuck the social justice warriors
      Dec 1
  • Amazon gemalto
    Poll title does not match poll question. This is a suboptimal post.
    Nov 257
    • Tableau / Product
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      I appreciate your use of the word “suboptimal”, token Amazonian.
      Nov 25
    • Apple / Opscrumbersum
      Another title would be more performant.
      Nov 25
    • Amazon gemalto
      Just trying to be nice lol. Thought suboptimal was better than calling it "garbage"
      Nov 25
    • Tableau / Product
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      That’s how I deliver feedback to my coworkers. Gotta let them know they eff’d up without burning them down publicly. If they’re smart they’ll understand and burn internally regardless.
      Nov 25
    • Vertivco / Eng
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      Token Tablowvian.
      Nov 25
    • Tableau / Product
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      Get on board with the gemalto joke!
      Nov 25
    • Vertivco / Eng
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      Oh, I get it!
      Nov 25
  • Google sirme
    As a woman, I would be infuriated if someone passed me because of my gender. It’s disrespectful to me as a professional. I would ask the recruiter, but there seems to be zero chance that they would be honest in the worst case scenario.
    Nov 253
    • Collective Health / EngTip
      As a black male I feel the same way.
      Nov 25
    • Amazon eldorodo
      Happens all the time. As long as we have diversity targets, it means we are picking based on sex and race.
      Nov 26
    • Google sirme
      or it could mean that they try to interview more diverse candidates @eldorodo
      Nov 26
  • Airbnb csnUwe
    I’m not convinced that there are actual differences in interview difficulty in that many places. But companies are fairly open about tilting the playing field in every other way possible in the other stages of the recruiting pipeline (initial sourcing, resume screen, help before interviews, etc).

    Some companies (e.g. Microsoft) give management incentives to improve diversity numbers as well as the capability to be biased in the interview bar (because interviewing happens on the group level). I would be surprised if there aren’t at least isolated cases of bias there.
    Nov 252
    • Vertivco / Eng
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      This has been disproven at Microsoft. There are reports of tons of well-qualified Black/African American applicants who get ignored.
      Nov 25
    • Airbnb csnUwe
      Specific cases don’t disprove anything. There is clear incentive and ability for any group manager to do this (since they make the final hiring decision) and there have been plenty of anecdotes that they do
      Nov 26
  • New tLFu71
    Of course the bar is lowered and exceptions are made for minorities and women. These companies are the cheerleaders of social justice garbage.
    Nov 251
    • PeerStreet / Other
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      Seriously, why is this even a question?
      Nov 26
  • Apple ento
    Oh God. Not this stupid shit again. 🙄
    Nov 261
    • The New York Times moony
      I like you.
      Nov 27
  • Microsoft / EngDr Yueh
    At Microsoft CVPs and up have a “diversity quota” tied to bonus. NEXT was the perfect example of this.
    Nov 251
    • Vertivco / Eng
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      Steve Jobs' company? No it didn't. Fake news is back at it again.

      You should join Infowars or PrisonPlanet.
      Nov 25
  • Amazon / EngBs)&:!
    Reverse racism doesn’t exist. There is racism and there is not racism. That’s it.
    Nov 260
  • Google sirme
    Do you mean lowering the bar to GET an interview or to PASS an interview? Because those are quiet different, lowering the bar to pass is a much more serious violation.
    Nov 250
  • PeerStreet / Other
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    OP it’s quite clear that this happens. But what are you going to do?

    SJW’s have infiltrated the collective conscience and now we have to deal with shitty coworkers that wouldn’t have gotten the job if it weren’t for diversity quotas
    Nov 263
    • Agilysys pewpyuu
      If it’s that clear there must be actual evidence/impartial-studies right? Do you have any or is it just anecdotal?
      Nov 30
    • Amazon jsyhrju367
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      Yeah you're right
      Dec 1
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      @Agilsys show me a study and I’ll show you a fired and disgraced researcher.
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  • Microsoft / Product@zzz
    What are the two ns in your fanng
    Nov 252
    • Vertivco / Eng
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      Racist
      Nov 25
    • Fitbit Sodndj
      I think nvidia and Netflix based on their stock performance
      Nov 25
  • Expedia pERd08
    What counts as a "minority" for technical interviews? Engineering teams are already multicultural.
    Nov 251
    • Amazon jsyhrju367
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      White, Asian, and Indian males have the cards stacked against them in technical interviews.
      Dec 1
  • Microsoft / EngDr Yueh
    To pass
    Nov 254
    • Google sirme
      and who exactly would be doing this passing? In every company I have worked at, there’s input that’s taken from multiple people along this hiring pipeline.

      There’s too many people involved in hiring decisions that you would already have had solid evidence by now that it’s easier to PASS and that it’s a serious, ongoing issue. But you don’t have that evidence.

      Sure there may be one off cases, but isn’t that the same story for every gender/ethnicity one in a while. And corrections are made.
      Nov 26
    • Microsoft / EngDr Yueh
      The GMs or CVPs. Just because a loop has input x at msft doesn’t mean the GM can’t pull the trigger anyways. Maybe it’s different at google but there are level 67 engineers in my org who literally couldn’t reverse a string hired because they’re “women in tech”
      Nov 26
    • Agilysys pewpyuu
      And you’ve never met male engineers who needed hand holding?
      Nov 30
    • Microsoft / EngKennyH
      Not at level 67!!!
      Dec 1

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