Does Uber not negotiate on salaries anymore?

Credit Karma oKJa48
Nov 15, 2017 48 Comments

Recruiter says they don’t look at current comp and competing offers to give an offer. They try to stay objective by looking at interview performance and work history. Is that true or a bunch of BS?

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TOP 48 Comments
  • Uber Org
    We don't need you. Feel free not join.
    Nov 15, 2017 7
    • Google RussellP
      Uber bro
      Nov 15, 2017
    • Probably doesn't work at Uber anymore. Congrats on the offer! I'm in ATG!
      Nov 15, 2017
    • Uber / Eng bkhfdt
      My bet is that Org is a former employee sock-puppeting.
      Nov 17, 2017
    • HashiCorp QOBL43
      No where in what you described did they say they don’t negotiate. It’s now illegal, at least in California, to ask about your current or previous salaries. You should always negotiate based on the skills you’re bringing to the company. What they’re saying is accurate- ultimately, what is this position worth to them for the business? That’s all.
      Nov 17, 2017
    • LegalMatch JSrPM
      Already in practice at Uber AFAIK
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Amazon cjPX86
    If you talk to any VC, they would privately tell you that Uber’s total comp is a lie. Weights heavily on equity, which has proven to be worth $14B less than a year ago (Softbank@50B investment vs 64B). At the very best, Uber’s EV will double to $100B and in the process of doing so, new series will likely dilute you and other employees by another 10-20%. This all assumes that their perv execs don’t help themselves to another female employee.

    My recommendation is to get as much cash-based comp as possible. Yes, they do nego salaries but your interview performance was likely not stellar.
    Nov 15, 2017 10
    • Amazon cjPX86
      Gosh, I don’t know how people can be so unintelligent here. @bkhfdt: Are you a recruiter?

      “Securities fraud, also known as stock fraud and investment fraud, is a deceptive practice in the stock or commodities markets that induces investors to make purchase or sale decisions on the basis of false information, frequently resulting in losses, in violation of securities laws.” Wikipedia.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Uber / Eng bkhfdt
      Nope. Engineer with lots of legal experience at previous companies.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Amazon cjPX86
      @bkhfdt, great! Perhaps, you can explain to us all, the consequences of intentionally withholding material information to your investors?
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Uber / Eng gmtsxg
      I don’t disagree with anything you’re pointing out, none of which I addressed in any way in my original comment. I simply stated that class actions are unlikely to be successful in this case and that redirecting the incident towards the bug bounty program isn’t that bad an idea.

      Withholding the breach from the public when there are various state regulations requiring disclosure was wrong.

      If, however, the $100k was paid as a bounty to the hackers in a non-anonymous way with contractual guarantees against future disclosure then I could see how one could reach the conclusion that there was no breach to disclose because security of the customer data in question was being provided not by technical measures but legal ones.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Amazon cjPX86
      I think you seriously missed the point. Nobody disagrees that paying to the hackers was a bad idea. Not disclosing this info was. As a consequence, the valuation of Uber now is less. Uber Execs created a new liability by withholding the material info from their investors. In fact, it also exposed the company’s execs to personal lawsuits, not covered by the corp insurance, which I’m sure you are also aware of.

      More importantly, this precedence begs another question: is there more withheld info? Most legal professionals would agree that a single discovery typically leads to more as it was with the Yahoo’s breaches, LendingClub’s backdating and Wells Fargo fake account creation and overcharging.

      In the end, Uber is now valued less and its stock worth less:

      Enterprise Value (EV) - New Liability

      Right?
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Facebook public
    Lol
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Facebook / Mktg Mymothersa
    Lol dude you’re so naive. Who the hell will reply saying “yah we negotiate so feel free to ask me for more money”
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Uber / Eng bag
    That could be true, at least partially. This is for pay equity between gender and race. For example normally females have low salaries elsewhere and have poor negotiation skills so they are adopting some this approach for equal pay regardless of gender.
    Nov 15, 2017 2
    • This is accurate
      Nov 15, 2017
    • Uber / Eng bkhfdt
      With this in mind, expect this to become market norm soon.
      Nov 17, 2017
  • NewRelic / Other ezVC
    I was told the same by Uber recruiter recently. I’m still in the rounds so don’t have an offer yet. They asked me abt my expectations and noted that their comp is heavy on equity. And yes, No Negotiations is their new policy to avoid “discrimination “, I.e each level has a set comp. not sure if I shld believe this
    Nov 15, 2017 1
    • Uber / Eng oOBb03
      Negotiate a higher level. But if interview was not good, you will have to try again with another team. During debrief, level was determined. Once level is set, then the offer is fixed. Later, perf will set bonuses and such.
      Nov 17, 2017
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    • Credit Karma oKJa48
      OP
      At Uber or elsewhere? What’s interesting to me there is that during the interview loop they didn’t dive deep on my resume
      Nov 15, 2017
  • Apple / Eng Everybody
    Gotta be ready to walk away if you don’t get what you want else you won’t get shit
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Deloitte PVaQ48
    Just say you want x and let them take it or leave it. This is Capitalism.
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Uber Mf68vo6q
    Unfortunately it is sort of true that there is very little wiggle room in comp. thanks to equity comp policy all comp (salary and equity) are formulaic.
    Nov 15, 2017 1
    • Credit Karma oKJa48
      OP
      What is that formula and what are the pay ranges for each band? Do promotions have both cash and equity components?
      Nov 16, 2017
  • Uber t54m3
    It is true accross Uber. In addition the offer competes with industry but not necessarily your other offers. Like any offer, it is negotiable to a point, maybe not to the point you would like to.
    Nov 15, 2017 1
    • Credit Karma oKJa48
      OP
      Yeah from my personal experience, it’s not competitive with market, but I do like the team
      Nov 16, 2017
  • Uber EPyB70
    it can be true under the new policy. since we are building pay equality, this means new comers cannot have much higher comp than current employees. otherwise it will create frustration. but back to early this year, it was negociable.
    Nov 15, 2017 1
    • Credit Karma oKJa48
      OP
      It’s also frustrating that offer is non negotiable..
      Nov 16, 2017
  • Uber / Eng Dchudbs
    You are a self driving engineer from credit karma?
    Nov 16, 2017 0
  • Uber Asdfgg
    Uber adopts an equal pay policy. The bands are very narrow. There is litter room for negotiation.
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Uber UenU55
    I know we don't salary match. You should be able to negotiate cash vs equity, but no idea on total comp.
    I'm also not atg, so they may have different rules.
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Uber corny
    I think they don’t match competing offers or current comp anymore. But you can always say the comp is too low to consider this offer, right?
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Airbnb Sofjsbsdja
    Bs
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Microsoft $oftie$
    Anything from your HR or recruiter is a trick. Got ya! Haha!
    Nov 15, 2017 1
    • Uber RngrDngr
      Tehehehhe! Got em! Sick brah!
      Nov 15, 2017
  • Deloitte PVaQ48
    Only if you are a hacker.
    Nov 24, 2017 0
  • Uber bcxv55
    Hm it was definitely different earlier this year. Maybe things changes? As a side note - is it a good idea to have your company and group within uber that you're interviewing for listed in an anonymous forum?
    Nov 17, 2017 0