Donald Trump’s planned H-1B visa rule deal major blow to Indian IT firms

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Oct 18, 2018 41 Comments

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  • Snapchat Snappie
    Give jobs to Americans first! Then the rest of the people can be grated H1 once we’ve given everyone here employment. I don’t but the BS about talent not being available. We can train and invest in people. I felt the system was very bad and resulted in people just coming here, getting married and having kids so they could become US citizens. The Indian and Chinese population benefited from this immensely. The quality of the people coming in was substandard and often were hired but other people had interviewed for them. The reality is people were gaming the system big time. I am not racist and do understand people’s position but I am a relish. Trump is right on this one.
    Oct 18, 2018 14
    • Accenture pJwc45
      @nohabla. I do not agree 100 percent. I know american citizens with CS degrees unemployed. They are not from Stanford or so. They just need proper training and connections
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Microsoft vplc07
      Middle East countries and many socialist countries prioritize their citizens. The US is not like them. Entitlements only include meh public schools, Medicaid and food stamps.

      We have always been importing immigrants since like forever. European scientists post WW2. Soviet scientists during the Cold War. We should continue to prioritize the best talents regardless of citizenship. Because talents are distributed globally but opportunities are not.

      Almost half of Goldman Sachs Partners (highest rank) have non-US citizenships. Goldman Sachs has been and continues to be the most prestigious investment bank for decades.
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Cerner :-0-<
      Thanks snappie for posting those links, so who was running those universities?

      Did it ever occurred to you that why were such universities running and giving fake degrees. Were they doing charity or it was profitable for university to have foreign student, as they can charge high tuition fees.

      From where I look at it, both the parties were playing foul games, and it was probably symbiotic relationship for parties involved.
      Oct 18, 2018
    • LinkedIn NoHabla
      @snappie I totally agree citizens should get first priority. But as you have said that not all citizens have got relevant education, what will you do until that problem is solved? Hence you need employment based immigration.

      Snapchat and other companies care for H1b fees and attorney fees. It runs in few tens of millions for companies that size.

      Sure there are lots who have gamed the system of immigration. But politicians across both parties have been saying for more than a decade now and not solving anything. I hope trump solves it, but just rhetorics against immigration doesn’t help. Immigration systems needs a change, not regress.

      And seriously I don’t want to compare US policies to Middle East policies
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Cerner XLdG63
      What's stopping you from starting a company and only hiring American citizens. Why are you waiting for someone else to 'train and invest' in people here.
      Oct 18, 2018
  • LinkedIn NoHabla
    I have been hearing about H1b change, merit based immigration, wall since Trump came to power for about 2 yrs now. But nothing has changed transcendently.
    Oct 18, 2018 5
    • With premium processing gone, hiring a h1b person has become really tough. H4 work permits are almost about to go away. H1 RFEs and declines have increased multi-fold. As a hiring manager, i have really struggled with hiring over the past 3 months.
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Only someone who has no concept of the current hiring climate will think Trump has changed nothing. The Trump administration have tightened the noose around every rope possible without going to Congress.

      The H1b situation is getting more dire and hiring people is simply getting harder. This is all thanks to Trump. Call him what you will. He is delivering on his promises and leaving some destruction in his wake.
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng yayssa
      Democrats oppose *any* immigration reform. They don’t give a shit about legal immigrants. Sanctuary cities, deportation protection for illegals, free health care for illegals paid by us all are the top of their priority list. We’re not valuable because we can’t vote. Also, income wise we’re making “too much”, are in their view partly to blame for the “income inequality” and should be robbed blind with new taxes to pay for the homeless druggies that shit in front of our houses.
      Oct 18, 2018
    • LinkedIn NoHabla
      I meant Nothing has changed majorly. More petty enforcement of existing rules. Smarter people hesitate to immigrate to US these days because of dumb outdated immigration laws.

      If hiring is difficult (I know it is), why isn’t your company lobbying for an immigration policy change ? Companies successfully lobby for tax cuts, guns and other stuff, why can’t they lobby for better immigration laws.

      Basically companies were ok to keep people on H1b for years (Indians and Chinese mainly due to slow green card processing for them) and now it has reached a point where it is backfiring on companies.

      Outdated immigration laws and petty enforcement of existing laws does not reduce immigration. It only reduces immigration of smarter ppl. There are huge numbers who still want to come here without anything and however difficult immigration policies
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Nohabla... companies are lobbying. Your assmuption that they aren’t, is wrong. Just google for it man. You have this tendency of making blanket statements...
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng yayssa
    Democrats oppose *any* immigration reform. They don’t give a shit about legal immigrants. Sanctuary cities, deportation protection for illegals, free health care for illegals paid by us all are the top of their priority list. We’re not valuable because we can’t vote. Also, income wise we’re making “too much”, are in their sick view partly to blame for the “income inequality” and should be robbed blind with new taxes to pay for the homeless druggies that shit in front of our houses.
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • No shit man. I wonder what happen if I cross the border illegally and enter mexico
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Google Halaka
    “Planning” in first sentence == clickbait
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Snapchat Snappie
    Also, the fact that India and China have such strict business policies within their own country but when it comes to the US they want to grab every benefit and pump out babies for the passport. It’s a sad reality
    Oct 18, 2018 2
    • Cerner :-0-<
      Can you please elaborate on what stage should consenting adult immigrant on H-1 or other visa decide to have children?

      Do they need permission from state, government or any other entity, on when to plan family?

      There might be foul players, whose sole purpose of having kids is something for their advantage, but please do not generalize.
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Microsoft Blkman
      US has been preaching globalization to the world since 1950 to 2016. What changed suddenly though?
      Oct 18, 2018
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    • Cloudera / Eng
      megatronic

      Cloudera Eng

      PRE
      Google
      megatronicmore
      Yeah, P U T I N 2020 .
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Microsoft Blkman
      You should also add “Make Saudi Arabia Great Again” - MSAGA !!
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Google Halaka
    Good move. Should have made it BEFORE China took over as the world’s only real superpower.

    Indians would be better in India when the dollar decline hits.
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • China didn't have to take it. Obama gave it to them
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Facebook BOLTZMANN
    They will just move on to other countries ex - Canada and some European countries it even their own countries . The companies will follow them. Trump or Republicans will then try to tax the companies that move their work offshore.
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Don't think so. Big Companies already have offices in India but still hiring here. Why?
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Accenture pJwc45
    Don’t believe it, heard crap like this for last 2 years, nothing going to change. Tata, infosys,Wipro, cts are biggest employers in us as well. Who is going to work for 45 dollars
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Accenture pJwc45
    None, its just rumour
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Apple Gg56fh
    Did the USCIS/White House release a formal statement or comment? I’d prefer to read the source material.
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    Djanga

    New Eng

    BIO
    Tc = broke. Education: the Derek Zoolander school for kids who can’t read and want to do other stuff good too
    Djangamore
    No bad practice is sustainable, at some point someone was bound to zero in on h1b abuse ....
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Google Tt331
    Finally ! Let’s hope they do something rather than just coming out with timelines which are never met.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Facebook BOLTZMANN
    Because it’s still profitable to. I am not saying all our companies will move outside the US but a significant portion of the dev work will , maybe.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • I think it's a good move but honestly, those ICC will find another loophole to exploit. They have been doing this for decades without shame and will continue to do so.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Bloomberg / Eng WPSlayer
    🛫✈️🛬
    Oct 18, 2018 0

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