Don’t join on receipt.

Oath Smugpug
Sep 28, 2018 28 Comments

Fellow visa holders, I am trying to hire engineers for my team and just got off the phone with attorney and want to share what she told me. She said I should discourage candidates from joining before approval comes through. Rejection rates as well as the processing time might increase in the near future as uscis is becoming more strict. Without approval your status become illegal if you had already left the previous job 6 months back. Hence H1 visa is almost like a L visa now because no employer wants to wait for 6 months to hire. Please avoid joining on receipt. It could backfire.

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TOP 28 Comments
  • IBM qaja10
    I have onsite interviews in next couple of weeks with MS & Amazon and recruiters know I am on H1B. I was thinking of joining on receipt as they are big companies. Do recruiters know about all the immigration issues? Or it would be just waste of time?
    Sep 28, 2018 3
    • LinkedIn KhooCV🎪
      Recruiters’ mission is to fill the req ASAP so they don’t think of your best interest. You have to look out for yourself in this regard
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Nvidia dielsldr
      For the love of god don’t join on receipt ! Big companies would wait it out if you are good. Don’t be desperate! Big companies doesn’t guarantee H1-approval !
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Amazon IScL36
      Amazon waited for me for 6 months last time premium processing was suspended
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Nvidia dielsldr
    I mean why would anybody join on receipt unless there are unavoidable circumstances.
    Sep 28, 2018 4
    • Because company can’t wait?
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Nvidia dielsldr
      Sure if you are dumb !
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Google WatsGoinOn
      Some reasons someone would want to join on receipt and not wait extra 2-3 months: if someone is getting a 100k bump, extra sign on, hate current employers, really excited about the next job, etc
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Apple magikarp16
      I guess dielsldr is the dumb one
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Microsoft Ahamed
    If you are currently in a very bad company and get an offer from a really good company, you should join on receipt. The worst case scenario would be relocated to the oversea office, which is not bad at all.
    Sep 28, 2018 2
    • Nvidia dielsldr
      Just wait it out. Moving to overseas office is not as simple as it sounds !
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Microsoft / Mgmt Javas
      You cannot move overseas - it takes atleast 6 months to prepare for that .
      Sep 28, 2018
  • New / Eng namon
    Rejections have been more frequent recently. I see people in my ethnic community getting rejected for transfer even if it’s same type of job.
    Sep 28, 2018 4
    • Starbucks anonys
      Just say Indian!
      Sep 28, 2018
    • New / Eng namon
      Im not Indian or Chinese. Thanks.
      Sep 28, 2018
    • New / Eng namon
      Great to see a starbucks employee assume anyone not born here should be Indian.
      Sep 28, 2018
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay
      You are on Blind. New here?
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Microsoft / Mgmt Javas
    Great advice - it’s not clear anywhere- candidates want to join on receipt - I am against that , but as hiring manager I am being restricted to speak out and influence the candidates because it will feel like discrimination. To me it’s clear - nobody on h1 should even interview (unless you have been fired from current job). And even if companies allow you to start on reciept , remember you will be illegal , don’t expect companies to do “magic” to make you legal again. Another point , waiting for 6 months doesn’t make sense , I would rather not apply and get through premium when it starts , why would I spend money for h1 transfer , all to see the candidate leave for better TC , in 6 months I can get 6 jobs .
    Sep 28, 2018 2
    • It wont be 6 months .. candidates application can move to premium after Fev 19th ... essentially 4 months to wait
      Sep 28, 2018
    • EY / Consultant
      shirapx

      EY Consultant

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      @Javas Why would you even reach out to candidates in that case?
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Deutsche Bank Tops
    OP you can join now on receipt and promote to PP when it opens in Feb. I think if one is desperate and moving to a well known company - this might be fine
    Sep 28, 2018 1
    • Cloudera / Eng nomicon
      **might**
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Cisco LwJH30
    Would things change next year when premium processing is reinstated?
    Sep 28, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Teach me
      *if it's reinstated?
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng 1year
    From my experience one should not join big companies on receipt. No one give fuck if your are approved. I had to chase my manager to reply to RFE and since it is big company.. they do not care if one employee is lost
    Sep 28, 2018 0
  • Apple
    aaplpicker

    Apple

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    aaplpickermore
    I joined Apple on receipt and things worked out just fine. Just got my approval few days ago. It's a risk that you would take. Only you can decide whether it's worth it or not. By NOT joining on receipt, you could risk losing the offer if the company were to freeze hiring and lose out on high salary for few months. By joining on receipt you could run into risk of getting rejection which could complicate your status. In my case my company assured me that they'll do everything to make sure I'm on good status if I join on receipt. So it gave me confidence to make my decision.
    Feb 10 0
  • Capital One / Other Dfjsbsj
    Good advice
    Sep 28, 2018 0