Down leveled at Salesforce?

Splunk ghj123
Apr 13 29 Comments

Got MTS offer. TC: 220k (160 Base + 10% bonus + 176k stocks over 4 years. No sign-on)

I had interviewed for SMTS but got down leveled as 1 of the 4 rounds was not as good.
Recruiter told me they are set on the level and I can get promoted in a year, as that’s possible at Salesforce.

How is the promotion cycle at Salesforce? Has anyone leveled ‘up’ within a year?

Current TC: 200K (stock price ++)
TC at the time of negotiating: 185K
YOE: 3

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TOP 29 Comments
  • Oracle not_larry
    Don’t buy what that recruiter is selling. Join only if you are okay with not getting promoted in a year.
    Apr 13 0
  • Dropbox systest
    If your TC is going up, it’s not a down level. TC > Level
    Apr 13 1
  • Salesforce lulzz
    Would you accept a SMTS at 220k? Title doesn’t matter, TC does. TC is high MTS and overlapping S. Take the offer.
    Apr 13 0
  • Salesforce fmOD75
    You definitely don't have enough XP to be SMTS.
    Apr 13 3
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      I have seen some of the new grads (Masters) getting MTS. I have Masters too. How long do people usually have to wait with ‘meets all expectations’ performance to get to SMTS?
      Apr 14
    • Salesforce fmOD75
      Ah if that's the case then usually a year for you. New undergrad to amts, grad to mts. Having 3 years + grad degree helps put you near top of mts band. But look at it from a hiring manager pov, only 3 year XP vs hiring somebody with 5ish for same budget.

      As for promo, It's usually 1-2 years amts, 2-3 years mts, 3-7 SMTS and so on with higher levels becoming harder to achieve if at all. Lmts was previously the terminal level, now it's pmts.
      Apr 14
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      Ah okay. I understand hiring manager’s perspective but I was told it will be completely based on my interview performance. I started with interview process for SMTS and landed MTS.
      Apr 14
  • Tesla shbdbdien
    Don’t believe them. I got the same shit offer from Apple, even though I nailed the interview.
    Apr 13 2
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      Did you negotiate the level or decline the offer?
      Apr 13
    • Tesla shbdbdien
      Didn’t decide yet. But they don’t want to negotiate neither the level nor the salary.
      Apr 13
  • Cisco pista
    How is your Tc breakdown?
    Apr 13 1
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      Updated the question
      Apr 14
  • Splunk ghj123
    OP
    Thank you everyone!
    With the increased stock price, my current TC has gone up significantly. How to deal with that the decreasing gap in the current and future TC? After accepting the offer, it is near impossible to renegotiate.
    Apr 14 0
  • Salesforce / Eng pRtz42
    That's a ridiculously good TC for MTS. I wouldn't bank on a 1 year promotion to SMTS but you're top of band for comp
    Apr 13 0
  • Salesforce ilaqokrv
    I got promoted to SMTS in a year.
    Apr 14 2
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      I have seen some of the new grads (Masters) getting MTS. I have Masters too. How long do people usually have to wait with ‘meets all expectations’ performance to get to SMTS?
      Apr 14
    • Salesforce ilaqokrv
      I got my master degree 2 years ago
      Apr 14
  • Microsoft grm
    What's smts?
    Apr 15 1
    • Salesforce fmOD75
      Bing it ;)
      Apr 15
  • Salesforce notblind42
    Can you share your tc breakdown(base/bonus percentage/rsu/sign on whatever)
    Apr 14 1
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      Updated the question
      Apr 14
  • SAP amFP81
    Seattle?
    Apr 13 1
    • Splunk ghj123
      OP
      Bay area
      Apr 13
  • Salesforce bsdA83
    Take it. You will most likely get promoted after a year if perform well
    Apr 13 1
    • Salesforce Liu Kang
      Not necessarily. Salesforce is known to throw in the phrase “we are hiring you at X level, but the hiring manager believes you’ll be promoted to the next level in a year.”
      Apr 13
  • Nvidia ECTT56
    NEG THAT SIGN ON
    May 10 0
  • Dropbox lTtU50
    SMTS is pretty easy to get in 1 year. It's not the same level as seniors in other companies.
    Apr 13 0
  • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
    Need more yoe
    Apr 13 0

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