CompensationApr 13, 2019
Splunkghj123

Down leveled at Salesforce?

Got MTS offer. TC: 220k (160 Base + 10% bonus + 176k stocks over 4 years. No sign-on) I had interviewed for SMTS but got down leveled as 1 of the 4 rounds was not as good. Recruiter told me they are set on the level and I can get promoted in a year, as that’s possible at Salesforce. How is the promotion cycle at Salesforce? Has anyone leveled ‘up’ within a year? Current TC: 200K (stock price ++) TC at the time of negotiating: 185K YOE: 3

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Oracle not_larry Apr 13, 2019

Don’t buy what that recruiter is selling. Join only if you are okay with not getting promoted in a year.

Oath Atinlay2 Apr 13, 2019

Need more yoe

Dropbox systest Apr 13, 2019

If your TC is going up, it’s not a down level. TC > Level

Cisco pista Apr 13, 2019

True

Salesforce bsdA83 Apr 13, 2019

Take it. You will most likely get promoted after a year if perform well

Salesforce Liu Kang Apr 13, 2019

Not necessarily. Salesforce is known to throw in the phrase “we are hiring you at X level, but the hiring manager believes you’ll be promoted to the next level in a year.”

Tesla shbdbdien Apr 13, 2019

Don’t believe them. I got the same shit offer from Apple, even though I nailed the interview.

Splunk ghj123 OP Apr 13, 2019

Did you negotiate the level or decline the offer?

Tesla shbdbdien Apr 13, 2019

Didn’t decide yet. But they don’t want to negotiate neither the level nor the salary.

SAP amFP81 Apr 13, 2019

Seattle?

Splunk ghj123 OP Apr 13, 2019

Bay area

Salesforce fmOD75 Apr 13, 2019

You definitely don't have enough XP to be SMTS.

Splunk ghj123 OP Apr 14, 2019

I have seen some of the new grads (Masters) getting MTS. I have Masters too. How long do people usually have to wait with ‘meets all expectations’ performance to get to SMTS?

Salesforce fmOD75 Apr 14, 2019

Ah if that's the case then usually a year for you. New undergrad to amts, grad to mts. Having 3 years + grad degree helps put you near top of mts band. But look at it from a hiring manager pov, only 3 year XP vs hiring somebody with 5ish for same budget. As for promo, It's usually 1-2 years amts, 2-3 years mts, 3-7 SMTS and so on with higher levels becoming harder to achieve if at all. Lmts was previously the terminal level, now it's pmts.

Dropbox lTtU50 Apr 13, 2019

SMTS is pretty easy to get in 1 year. It's not the same level as seniors in other companies.

Salesforce pRtz42 Apr 13, 2019

That's a ridiculously good TC for MTS. I wouldn't bank on a 1 year promotion to SMTS but you're top of band for comp

Salesforce lulzz Apr 13, 2019

Would you accept a SMTS at 220k? Title doesn’t matter, TC does. TC is high MTS and overlapping S. Take the offer.