DropBox vs Google

C3 IoT WFLT54
Mar 20 199 Comments

I have two offers considering right now.

Please leave your honest comment for which I should take

Personal thought:

DropBox: good culture, better comp, maybe more scope, ownerships, responsibilities, but not really feel safe about future business.

Google Cloud: Big name, good culture ( at least for swe), heard of slower moving and slower promotions, might work on smaller scope of work due to level I am offered? Job and stock safety guarantee when recession comes?

Both: Good tech, a plus on resume, definitely a lot can be learned at both places?

Dropbox TC 260K IC2
Google Cloud TC 200K L3

Speaking of refresher, which might be stronger (average percentage)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

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  • Google / Eng catburglar
    Google won't match?
    Mar 20 8
    • Google nooglerx
      Google will match till 250k easily for L3.
      Mar 24
    • Facebook / Eng _Ethereal_
      +1 also agree that dbox has little future prospects
      Mar 24
    • JOANY / Mgmt e^(iπ)+1=0
      +1 for Google as long as they do at least $250 -- which I would be REALLY surprised if they didn't.

      Where are your 2.5 yoe?

      Is this in the Bay Area? I thought $200k was almost as low as Google went for SWE in the Bay. I just really can't imagine they wouldn't go to $250.

      Push very hard. It's literally $50k a year you're talking about!
      Mar 24
    • Microsoft BlueScreen
      Tell Google. Get them to match...or at least come very very close. Then take it.
      Mar 24
    • Google nooglerx
      @JOANY you are slightly wrong. Google loves to low-ball and down-level if one doesn’t have anything competing on the table. $200k is median high L3 offer. $250k is median high L4 offer, even people who joined as new grad and became L4 in 2-3 years earn less than $250k most of the times. With competing offer Google does match though or at least come really close unless they are not very interested in the candidate.
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft yiqing
    Google 100%. Why even consider Dropbox?
    Mar 20 6
    • Microsoft yiqing
      Friend who got fired from Dropbox after 3 months.
      Mar 20
    • Google / Eng gwTA77
      Why did they get fired though? Sounds personal...
      Mar 20
    • Yelp capKirk
      3 months seems too short for a solid reason
      Mar 20
    • Quora jxIz66
      I don't know your friend or their situation but.... You can do plenty wrong in 3 months to get fired.
      Mar 24
    • Google muller
      Do you know well enough your friend ?
      Mar 25
  • Google chenku
    Even if Google matches I feel career progression at Google is slow. I haven't been promoted even once in 3 months.
    Mar 24 8
    • Google Happyness
      This is not a typical experience. I've been promoted every single month since I started.
      Mar 24
    • Google mj8awr
      L39, starting to look like an Amazon ladder
      Mar 24
    • PayPal / R&D AvengerX
      Just curious to know what kind of experience and skill you require to get promoted in months?
      Mar 24
    • DemonWare / Eng mee
      Being able to produce a baby every month
      Mar 25
    • Nielsen nqED75
      PayPal obviously hires the smartest people
      Mar 25
  • Microsoft / Eng AmYe88
    If they match upto 230k go there.. You will have better learning as you at start of your career
    Mar 20 4
    • Yelp capKirk
      I disagree. I feel Dropbox would be better for learning, as the engineering would be a lot smaller and still hands on
      Mar 20
    • C3 IoT WFLT54
      OP
      Speaking of learning, I think there are more potential opportunities at Dropbox since the org is smaller, but it really depends on luck, hard to tell which wins are this point.
      Mar 20
    • LinkedIn / Product gassoup
      Nah. Dropbox is not a good place. Google leaps and bounds better.
      Mar 24
    • If you're gonna drop a comment like that LinkedIn you really should back it up with why you're qualified to make that judgement.
      Mar 24
  • Google mj8awr
    This isn't 2011. Who even uses Dropbox anymore?
    Mar 24 4
    • Microsoft IOBF26
      This isn’t 1999. Who uses search anymore?
      Mar 24
    • Google mj8awr
      Lol good one 😅.

      I'm not saying it's dated, I'm saying the company's growth has sunset
      Mar 24
    • Twitter / Eng
      tremendous

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      Why would you say good one for such a moronic comment?
      Mar 24
    • Microsoft IOBF26
      I didn’t even bring up bing vs google. He/ she got it where I was going. Agree on the slower user growth but as an engineer, there should be enough challenges. They may not grow users but content and files should grow over the period of time.

      As a Dropbox user, one of the 500million plus, I can say that they have the best file sharing/ sync experience.

      FB 2023 - read last 1 years news and you will realize who is delusional. Storing user passwords in plain text and asking users to reset their password via a blog post sounds like a good, grounded idea.
      Mar 24
  • Google ySie87
    Ex-DB here.

    On offer and benefit packages:
    Google will likely match or beat, just make sure you’re clear about what you want and let them know of the offer. Google equity vests as soon as you start and easily liquid (we get stock accrued every month). Also, Dropbox stock isn’t so great and still trying to stabilize.
    You have quantifiable paid vacation, sick, and paternity/maternity days from Google vs. Dropbox unlimited (which means if you leave you can get that money back). With Google you actually can travel around the world if you want. The healthcare offerings from Google have been really impressive. I barely ever pay for prescription drugs (most was $5). Google actually funds an HSA AND A limited health care fund. Peer bonuses also are great. Dropbox food is good, but you have multiple restaurants and offerings at every Google office. Generally the quality of basic things is much higher at Google, especially team events. Promo is pretty straight forward at Google, but a little more conservative to make sure people are ready for the level. Basically try your hand at the higher level work and then the promo will come whereas dropbox leveling has the issue where you’ll level up quickly but will likely get hard downleveled when you leave elsewhere.

    On career outlook:
    I think it depends on a lot of context. Dropbox doesn’t have a lot of diverse product areas and problems to attack. You can work on anything at Google and transfer teams anytime. You have about 3 options Given the size of the teams and company, you’ll find that problems are overstated, overengineered, and treated too conservatively. Google however has been more experimental and quicker at tackling problems that take Dropbox years to do. With the cloud space, it’s better to work at Google because you’ll have a sense of what success looks like in the space. I’ve seen cloud launch services with a hit success very quickly. However, I think everyone should work for an underdog at some point. You learn so much from those experiences as a product person. Imagine building something that exists to compete, really learning from that, and seeing it fail (getting killed or DB acquiring some startup that does what you just made). You’ll also find more seasoned product people at Google across the board.
    Mar 24 2
    • Dropbox systest
      “DB acquiring startup that does what you just made”.
      Can confirm, HelloSign acquisition
      Mar 24
    • General Motors QEmN10
      ^this. For me in no particular order the decision parameters are TC, company market strategy, and vertical/horizontal career options.
      Mar 25
  • Microsoft cUwPkF
    I’ll try to get Google to match and then accept Google.

    I would want a brand name early on in my career. It will open doors.
    Mar 20 8
    • Google / Data FakeDS2
      Yeah, and don't forget that is 60 pre tax. Close to 30 in CA.
      Mar 24
    • Oracle
      UpandON

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      60k/yr is huge though. But google has a better upside and brand. I would go with Google.
      Mar 24
    • Nvidia RDTx28
      Sorry, I disagree here. If that 60k per year follows you around for even 10 years, that's 600k difference over 10 years. I cannot tell you what to do, but I would go for Dropbox and try it out for 2 years. If you want to change at that time, you will be going out at that level and pay. If you don't like Google in two years, you will be going out at a lower level and pay.
      Mar 24
    • Nvidia RDTx28
      If you cannot negotiate them for a better pay, you can try again in a couple of years.
      Mar 24
    • C3 IoT WFLT54
      OP
      Good point!
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft M💰FT
    Dropbox will be irrelevant in 10 years. Google will continue its dominance.
    Mar 24 5
    • Who gives a f about 10 years from now if you are 1 million dollar richer
      Mar 25
    • Microsoft M💰FT
      If you want to be proud of the work you do, then a lot of people.
      Mar 25
    • Quit the tech then. It’s all about the money and greed. Go volunteer in Africa or India if you want to feel good about yourself. I am only here to make money and cut the neck of the person ahead of me.
      Mar 26
    • Amazon NMJO05
      Money’s important but only up until a certain point. If you’re obsessed with making more then that’s pretty sad because that’s all your life is about and it’s pointless.
      Mar 26
    • When you get to that point let me know brother. No one does! not even uncle Jeff
      Mar 26
  • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
    Google cloud is a messy and hell org. Dropbox is better.
    Mar 24 5
    • Yelp capKirk
      I would be wary of google cloud
      Mar 24
    • Twitter / Eng
      tremendous

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      Lol
      Mar 24
    • Twitter / Eng
      tremendous

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      It’s cute seeing Amazon write “messy and hell org” 🍌
      Mar 24
    • Expedia pERd08
      What's wrong with Google cloud?
      Mar 24
    • Dropbox systest
      It’s messy because it’s growing quickly. Not a bad thing. Your career will grow when your org is growing.
      Mar 25
  • Amadeus Trick2g
    I disagree. That 60k he just left on the table will compound to hundreds of thousands of dollars in a a few years of invested. Don’t ever leave money on the table like that. Negotiate like crazy and get google to match or beat Dropbox’s offer.
    Mar 20 1
    • Google WVXD02
      That's assuming drop box stock stays at it's current value which is unlikely.
      Mar 24
  • Amazon ♋️
    I’ve worked at both. Google. Dropbox has no clue about career development
    Mar 24 0
  • Microsoft
    qGFA13

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    qGFA13more
    Dropbox thinks of u as a higher level and google doesn’t. That’s basically it
    Mar 20 0
  • Yelp capKirk
    Dropbox's equity could potentially end up becoming lot lower 🤷
    Mar 20 5
    • C3 IoT WFLT54
      OP
      This is something I am concerned of
      Mar 20
    • Yelp capKirk
      To factor this, I would consider the current scenario. A pretty simplistic view
      The stock is falling due to revenue or growth not meeting up to the valuation.

      The only long term way around this is to 1) identify and capture gaps in the markets for existing product space 2) long term plans to grow revenue.

      From the earnings call u can figure out the two points. If there are.some promising things other than cost saving scenarios, there might be hope.

      I
      Mar 20
    • Amazon / R&D
      ps.ily

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      ps.ilymore
      Potentially? More like absolutely guaranteed.
      Mar 24
    • Google Methane
      I'm curious about this. Why do you think so? I feel like Dropbox is more widely used than Box. No?
      Mar 24
    • C3 IoT WFLT54
      OP
      DropBox focus more on end user, box focus more on companies
      Mar 24
  • Facebook Haggle
    Get google to match and then get dropbox to increase their offer. Also DB is in SF and google in MV. I’d lean towards dropbox if I were you
    Mar 20 5
    • C3 IoT WFLT54
      OP
      Hi, thanks for your thought, gcp actually located in Sunnyvale, more concrete reason why Dbox? Thanks!
      Mar 20
    • Facebook Haggle
      I think the bar is higher at DB to be honest. Prestige is better at google, location in the city, higher level, better comp, dropbox has the best food of all companies. Had a friend decide between them and he chose DB. Don’t think he regrets that decision
      Mar 20
    • Google / Eng catburglar
      Also consider the variety of products you can switch between at Google.
      Mar 20
    • Box fIdv63
      “dropbox has the best food of all companies” - lol. Is food really a factor? :)
      Mar 24
    • Dropbox / Data Gbo
      Chef Brian here says: yes, the food is part of our core culture and how we recruit.
      Mar 25
  • Dropbox 250F
    Dropbox culture has gone down hill
    Mar 24 3
    • Any experience to share?
      Mar 24
    • Dropbox systest
      We used to ship quickly.
      Mar 24
    • And how does that relate to culture?
      Mar 25
  • Google / Data
    blindgoogl

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    Definitely Google. Don’t be short-sighted. After you spend 2-3 years on Google, you will realize how much more opportunities you have in the industry and how easier to get a good offer from companies like DB. Most importantly, you have no regrets if want to try small startups to take risks for big gains. End of the day, what you can learn is more important.
    Mar 24 1
    • Twitter / Eng
      tremendous

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      This is true. Get it on your resume and feel free to move around to smaller companies and better TC after a year or so. But first get Google to match the TC they’ll happily do that and offer some more on top.
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft liveordie
    Both are excellent options. I think you will want to job hop a few times anyway to get pay bumps, so no need to fret too much over which offer to get right now. I would think that Google is a safe bet just to put in your resume.

    I think Google will not match the dropbox comp, period. Google is known for underleveling and underpaying all new hires.
    Mar 24 0
  • Facebook LavarBall1
    Why are u leaving c3? I’m considering a role there
    Mar 25 5
    • Microsoft M💰FT
      Why are u leaving fb? I’m considering a role there
      Mar 25
    • Facebook LavarBall1
      Could you pls let OP answer before you troll me. Thx
      Mar 25
    • Microsoft M💰FT
      Actually serious lol
      Mar 25
    • Microsoft UMbR31
      Why are you leaving Microsoft? I'm considering a ro... Oh wait!
      Mar 25
    • Facebook LavarBall1
      I like fb but I saw a billboard on c3 and it looked interesting so wanna check it out.
      Mar 25
  • New .A.
    People you have to work with every day are much more important than the name of a company, promotions or TC. Go with the team you feel more comfortable with.
    Mar 24 3
    • Amadeus Trick2g
      That doesn’t pay the bills buddy.
      Mar 24
    • Intuit / Eng
      j123x

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      Difference between 200 and 260 is only 30k.
      Mar 24
    • New .A.
      @Trick2g I can't see how it's applicable to the OP's situation. I'm pretty sure they will be able to pay bills with both Dropbox and Google.
      Mar 24
  • Apple LaEb06
    Wtf ? What’s your degree in ?
    Mar 24 3
    • Intel / Eng
      djrk

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      djrkmore
      I'm wondering the same thing.. sounds like an exec position
      Mar 24
    • Apple LaEb06
      2.5 yoe can’t be exec
      Mar 24
    • Twitter / Eng
      tremendous

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      Let me guess y’all must be in hardware?
      Mar 24

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