With 1 YoE, which company would be better for my career? Uber team is a lot more fun, but its also a high impact team (a lot of teams depending on the team's products -> might be bad WLB or a full 40/45 hr week). Google team seems much more relaxed, the product is a bit boring compared to Uber. I just want a place to grow for the next 2-4 years while also having a good WLB to focus on stuff that I'd like to do. I also want to focus on distributed systems either by joining the Uber team or by doing a team transfer at Google after I hit L4. On the other hand, I am very interested in joining Google to learn best practices and use the internal resources to develop myself. Also the I think the googler brand would be very strong compared to uber's after I stay in one those companies for 2-4 years and try to join another pre-ipo unicorn. Having a hard time deciding, I'd appreciate some wisdom as someone who is early in his career, especially people who've been at both companies or similar companies. Got L3 offers for both Uber 165k TC, Google 182.5k TC (Final negotiations, Uber didn't budge) TC: 120k YoE: 1
Uber if you care about growth. Google if you think 25k is gonna change your life!
I'm not in need of cash, I'll just invest that 25k extra to index funds or something similar. Still, I resented the Uber recruitment and their no-negotiation approach a bit, even though that's immature of me
You can blame that no negotiation bullshit on SJWs. Unfortunately it’s likely to spread to other employers as those employers draw scrutiny from the media.
Whats your skillset ?
Back-end and data streaming. Keep in mind I'm still early in my career
You’ll learn a lot more at uber unless you really luck out on what team you get at google (which is unlikely for someone early in their career). At google you’ll just be keeping the lights on.
Learn a lot in which sense? or do you mean career growth? I don't want to be L5 in 2 years at the expense of my outside work commitments, I've had a very rough year because of that.
Knowledge. Experience. Everything is already built at Google unless you get onto one of the few teams actually creating something new. The junior google engineers I’ve interviewed usually do poorly on our architecture interview because so many distributed systems problems are already solved by things like Spanner.
Google. Also, make it a poll.
I can't draw conclusions from the poll results, I need informed opinions from people who've worked at these companies. What makes you say Google?
Talk to friends who have worked in these companies. Don’t make a decision just based on Blind as responses here are biased. IMO, you will learn more at Google and would have better opportunities to learn from team members. Google brand early on your career would be a boost for resume. Not saying Uber would be bad. TC should not be a factor as you have a lot of time to catch up. Uber might be good to cash out but in long term, google may be a better bet.
Google with pay dividends on your resume far more than Uber will...in the long run
I thought it would be the other way around, is Uber engineering brand that bad?
Google eng brand is top of the line, uber is good. Google has had decades to cement and build systems. A young engineer getting exposed to solidly built stuff and getting reviews from super good engineers will be better than working through mistakes of a company that is working at a breakneck pace. At a more senior level, I'd suggest jumping from google and doing something more from scratch, but with strengthened fundamentals.
I’m 3yoe and loving it at uber. Company has really turned around since last year. I wouldn’t worry about TC since they’re so close. Uber potential growth is much larger too.
What kind of changes did you experience since last year with the new leadership?
Def uber. You will learn way more and get more responsibility at the junior level.
Work at Google for a couple of years. Then join Uber etc where they'll pretty much suck your dick for being ex Google.
Does it really make a huge difference? Is Uber now less selective than Google?
Uber, 1 yoe means your are young and most likely not married. Solid 50h/week if you like the projects and the team is actually enjoyable (seriously it is) In few years when you feel the burn or your priorities change (relationships/family/etc) you can move to Google to a more senior position
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Google. Higher comp plus it’s all liquid.
Should I really be optimizing for TC early in my career?
It’s not just for TC. As u mentioned, google also has better brand value.