Eight Onsites

Akamai Technologies backndmage
Jun 6, 2018 69 Comments

For the past three months, I’ve had eight on-site interviews and I only managed to get an offer from Symantec (don’t really want to join them). Has this ever happened to anyone else? Assuming all things equal (not douchebag, not arrogant, just completely normal guy), how can one be good enough to pass eight phone screens and not be good enough to get another offer besides Symantec?

Companies: Airbnb, Pinterest, Google, Facebook, Hustle, Twitter, Symantec

One left to go: Uber

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TOP 69 Comments
  • Symantec Snoop Dawg
    WTF
    Jun 6, 2018 1
  • Facebook / Eng Pank
    Interview is like a lottery. Don't take it too seriously.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Microsoft AIAI
    Numbers game, keep playing
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Expedia Chocolateo
    Sometimes it’s about whether you are likable in the onsite interview.
    Jun 6, 2018 2
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      That’s what I mean, just assuming all things are equal. At work, I’m generally likable. Funny guy, collaborative, don’t take things personally, etc...
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Robots and Pencils / Eng Skiena
      Sometimes that means they can discriminate against your race, gender, age, ...
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Facebook iqGB30
    Failed 15 on sites between. Jan and March before getting Fb
    Jun 6, 2018 8
    • Facebook iqGB30
      What all u have applied to. I can add to it
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      It’s in my post. Twitter/FB/G/Airbnb/Pinterest/Symantec/Hustle
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon FML_
      At which point did you start studying Leetcode?
      Jun 7, 2018
    • Facebook iqGB30
      Sry missed this earlier, u can apply nutanix, snap, Adobe, AMAZON, Lyft, uber, appdirect, PayPal, clover, . Create profile on Hired.com , I got 20+ job request all startups
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Facebook iqGB30
      I started leetcoding after 2 months. So did 1 month leetcode close to 60-70 qtns
      Jun 16, 2018
  • Pinger tJEh26
    It’s more common than you might think. I know lots of very good candidates getting rejected several times before an offer.

    Interview is a numbers game to some extent.
    Jun 6, 2018 4
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      At least I don’t know of any. I literally have a coworker that just maybe studied and crammed a week beforehand and got an offer at Pinterest! She’s bright, but given how coding interviews are a different beast from your regular work, I’m sure one has to prepare for it. And I’ve been at it for three months. 😥 LeetCode all day everyday
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Robots and Pencils / Eng Skiena
      All you know may be your coworker was preparing for 2 years.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      Definitely not. I know for a fact.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Visa shaolin
      Are u boning her?
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Intel ppp
    I'm in the same boat with you. Passed phone interviews easily, bombed the onsites. I dont agree with people saying its luck. If you get offers like 3/8 or 4/8, you can tell its luck. However, there are people making 5/5 or 0/7 etc. Luck cant explain extremes. Definitely, you lack some skills. In my case, I'm not bad at coding and pass phones easily. However, system designs are nightmare. You are doing something wrong. I generally couldn't get any feedback at all from the companies I interviewed with. You have to find what skill set you miss.
    Jun 6, 2018 3
    • Amazon FML_
      :( ouch
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      I agree so much with you. I’m missing something but I don’t know what! Interviewers are so good at making you think you’re doing better than you actually are so I can’t even pinpoint where my issues lie during the interview. 😞
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Peloton / Eng GAJK73
      I went through similar situation an year ago. Observations - I didn’t explain my work well especially when I was being considered for a mid-senior role. Also I didn’t knew when to keep quiet. I overly criticized my own responses coding/sys design during the interviews. Some level of discipline was necessary for me.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Microsoft fstop
    phone screens are generally coding. Maybe you are bad at behavioral or system design.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Salesforce zippyq
    I am in same boat. I have given on-site interviews at Google, Uber, Lyft, Twitter, FlexPort, Amazon and I have offer from Lyft. I feel my technical and system design interviews are going great. I have been lucky to write both white board and pair programming code perfectly but still no offer. Feedback I am getting is you are good technically but X is missing. Startup say you are not product focused where as big company say you are too close. Twitter is finding a different team for me where as Google rejected me after 2 successful team match. Overall interview performance is hard to read.
    Jun 6, 2018 6
    • Airbnb CEOOO
      Why Flexport?
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Flexport Whyisit
      Why not Flexport?
      Jun 11, 2018
    • Flexport uattr1t
      Probably because we’re 10x smaller than the other companies on zippyq’s list.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Airbnb ‘Tis fine
      I think Flexport is a promising company. I wanted to hear the logic from someone else.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Flexport uattr1t
      (a) freight forwarding is an information systems business
      (b) the incumbents were all founded before Netscape, so solve info problems with phone calls and unstructured text (email/docs)
      (c) huge $1T industry
      (d) market share distribution has a small head and fat tail (largest incumbents only have single digit market share)
      (e) conservatively we can be a peer of the current best in the industry (10x growth)
      (f) aggressive case is that we bring software industry winner takes all market dynamics to this fragmented but huge market (100x plus growth)

      DM me if you want a referral.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Cisco Mulholland
    Is it the first time you are interviewing? And why aren’t you considering symantec?
    Jun 6, 2018 6
    • Cisco Mulholland
      Oh ok . Do you think you did good in all interviews? What kind of system design questions you were asked?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      I’m pissed... honestly it’s a mixed bag, like in Pinterest I did very well, Airbnb not so much, Facebook, mediocre... etc... it’s just that all my good interviews just never end up on the same on-site.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      Motherfucker
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      ☹️😢
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Cisco Mulholland
      You can do an interview with person there are services like that. Btw what kind of design questions were asked?
      Jun 6, 2018
  • CA Technologies NotATroll
    PM here but I’m sure it’s very similar - I’ve been good at getting onsite at Google, FB, Twitter, and several others but as you no offer. Questions and answers similar to phone screens. I’ve noticed there’s always that one person who acts quite douche towards me but I try to be nice/respectful (I’m from Canada eh!) to deal with that person but yeah...

    I share the opinion of others that you can’t depend on what they say - I treat it as a product problem, I look at body ques and how they say things to judge how well I did. Often times there’s so much subjectivity when it comes to onsites that it’s outside your control.

    You do you and just keep doing them. You’re getting onsite, you’re better then most, just keep doing it
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng lolhiman
    I got rejected from Apple, Google,Microsoft, and Tableau, but always get Top Tier ratings at Amazon. It’s crapshoot.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Apple tuolumne
    Much of this is random. Keep trying.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Apple tuolumne
    OP, do not let this get to you. This is the fuel for imposter syndrome. Keep working at it. Keep interviewing. Keep refining your skills. If you need feedback, pay for mock interviews from gainlo or the others. One or two will give you a good signal of where you need to focus more effort.
    Jun 6, 2018 2
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      Thanks a lot! How many years have you been in the field?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple tuolumne
      15. And I’ve failed a lot of interviews in those 15 years. It’s a BS skill set. Some are better at it than others.
      Jun 7, 2018
  • Google tquii
    Phone screen has low bar. It means you are not there yet.
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • Facebook kjmonk
      This. Phone screen is the easiest of interviews. Passing this means you only passed the bare minimum. In college courses think of phone screen as the intro 100 classes and onsite at the 300-400 classes.
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Veritas yntr04
    Maybe system design. Maybe past experience. Maybe behavioral questions answered.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • LendingHome zKor78
    How is your profile? I aced a lot of interviews but had a shitty LinkedIn profile/ resume. I was rejected in like 3 to 4 onsite interviews. After I updated my LinkedIn profile, got offer from the first company I interviewed
    Jun 8, 2018 3
    • Fitbit Figs
      That doesn’t make much sense. Profile/resume should get you the interview, who cares about it after that? Why would they waste 4-5 hours interviewing only to reject you based on a resume that they had from the beginning?
      Jun 9, 2018
    • New AMex31
      Do the people who actually interview you get any say in whether you're invited to on-site? What if resume passes for recruiter and hiring manager, but the interviewer only looked at the profile on the day of the interview while evaluating the candidate?
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Fitbit Figs
      But what would be on the profile for this to happen multiple times? His racist beliefs?
      Why go through with wasting multiple engineers’ time after this eliminating thing on their resume is discovered by any of the interviewed on the day of the onsite?
      What’s way more likely is that they didn’t actually ace their interview, as it’s pretty hard to gauge interview performance as a candidate.
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Oath HjTg51
    Surely you’ve received feedback about where you fell short. See a common theme ? Work on that. Better offer should be just around the corner.
    Jun 6, 2018 3
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      Yeah they’re nice enough to tell me “The feedback wasn’t very detailed. But let’s circle back in 6 months/a year.”
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Oath HjTg51
      Push them for more detailed feedback. I know some of the companies on your list provide it.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Oath HjTg51
      Also don’t ask for feedback over email. Email the recruiter and ask to go over it on a phone call if possible. They’ll be more willing to share details over the phone.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • New / Eng
    Winwin

    New Eng

    PRE
    500 Startups
    Winwinmore
    Been doing 8 on sites over the last 2 weeks. 0 offer . 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Jun 6, 2018 2
    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      Which 8 companies my man?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Winwin

      New Eng

      PRE
      500 Startups
      Winwinmore
      They’re all non- FANG around the south bay. From small to big.
      Agree that Interview requires luck. Even though I’m a top performer in current company (under alphabet), zero offer tills now
      Jun 6, 2018
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    • Akamai Technologies backndmage
      OP
      I have an on-site with the Marketplace team so I’m hoping.... do you have any advice for me?
      Jun 6, 2018