I lost trust in Nudella when he said in a women empowerment conference when asked should women ask explicitly for raise and promotion. He said, good karma will come back. Just keep your head down and keep working and someone will eventually promote you.
That’s the exact reason why I left Microsoft. Microsoft has a concept of visibility to get promoted where visibility means talking loud in meetings and ask vague questions in meetings to make you look smart.
That culture hasn’t changed yet. Maybe those big vps are returning cause of the stock price or 55+ to rest and vest. It’s still a bad place for new grads and seniors.
I have seen many PMs making a comeback after moving to Amazon with promotion. MSFT HR was fooled by their levels - Amazon gives senior PM to PM 2 because otherwise they cant provide comparable compensation (PM salary is way lower at Amazon unlike Microsoft). Pm2 at MSFT to Senior PM at Amazon then come back as principal is a usual route and they do it in very short time. If you are PM, you definitely want to go this route as this is easy promotion to become principal PM.