Eng culture at Dropbox

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Nov 10 144 Comments

Negociating an IC3 offer, what’s the morale at Dropbox right now? Are still ppl from G/F joining recently? Heard bad things, like lots of good engineers jump ship recently.

TC: 330K

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TOP 144 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng rjeifhebe2
    Lol the product is dead, completely useless
    Nov 10 6
    • Amazon / Eng rjeifhebe2
      Yeah my Yahoo email works fine too.
      Nov 10
    • PTC / Eng
      IndianAudi

      PTC Eng

      PRE
      ptc, IBM, SAP
      IndianAudimore
      Its crazy that they’re making 550k per employee (basing it on their stocks) when all it is is just a file hosting application.
      Nov 12
    • Facebook leetworld
      Well file sync is pretty hard and there's a reason people prefer it Google drive and MS one drive.
      Nov 12
    • Amazon Allegiance
      @IndianAudi just a file hosting application LOL
      Nov 12
    • Amazon AWS-Engr
      'just a file hosting application'

      This fucking statement
      Nov 13
  • Dropbox dbxfest
    90% of our engineers are coming from google, Facebook and Microsoft. The bar has not been lowered
    Nov 10 16
    • Genesys / Creative
      washtub

      Genesys Creative

      PRE
      Deloitte
      washtubmore
      One man’s trash...
      Nov 12
    • Amazon ATVM36
      Probably wanted to work with van Rossum before his retirement.
      Nov 12
    • Facebook / Eng instandidl
      That funny. Google and FB people always talking about how their own bar has been lowered
      Nov 14
    • RingCentral / Eng fhgdsdg476
      What does that mean? So devs from unknown companies don't stand a chance?
      Nov 28
    • Facebook ambmns
      @telephon, do you have any idea how many of your peers are from even shittier companies? G has no bar for interviews.
      Nov 28
  • Dropbox / Eng dedes
    Stay away, bro. Don't want to sound too negative, but Dbx isn't place to be right now. Product isn't exciting and everyone know that, stock going down, etc.
    Nov 10 29
    • Dropbox PiTR20
      IC2 to L5 is more like +1 to me. IC1 maps to L3, IC4 maps to L4. According to levels.fyi
      Nov 12
    • I had IC3 offer in storage infra (magic pocket) but ended up declining as there wasn’t any interesting work happening in that area. Lately the focus seems to be more on product side.
      Nov 12
    • LinkedIn KWhw68
      Yo what happened to the food tho?? I interviewed there two years ago back when the Tuck Shop was raved about as one of the best tech cafeterias.
      Nov 13
    • Dropbox / Eng brumdb
      @LinkedIn right? Imagine how we felt when we lost steaks everyday after IPO and then lost them at all replaced by pork and two vegan options after move to new office.
      Nov 13
    • Facebook zvbxxnm
      Don’t be greedy! Your food is still the best!
      Nov 13
  • Dropbox dbxfest
    Not sure what u mean with “the trend” but we just moved into a brand new office, the place is beautiful. Just came out with a new product called the new dropbox that focuses on the enterprise customer. Some engineers have left but we have replaced them with other great engineers. The old leave and opportunities are opened for others.
    Nov 10 7
    • Facebook wwwrap
      Recruiter spotted
      Nov 12
    • Optimizely / Eng cwmu
      How do you feel when you disseminate company propaganda to pad your own pockets? When did you stop being a person and become a mouthpiece for your company? At this point, aren't you just a propaganda machine?
      Nov 13
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Dropbox sizzler
      I don’t know what that dude is smoking, but attrition is higher than it’s ever been. Entire divisions have been liquidated, and senior management removed without explanation. There’s no innovation, and growth is anemic.
      Nov 13
    • Dropbox EjoK34
      Just left DBX. Not recommended to join.
      Nov 14
  • Google DByeX
    Joined from Google a while back. Regret it. The sub comment is correct. Many from Microsoft, much fewer from Google. Facebook is bleeding engineers like crazy so if you have burned out at FB maybe worthwhile to consider. If you’re from Google, stay fucking put. You won’t be able stand a sinking ship run by morons who are misleveled, lucky MIT undergrads who are on the in, and middle managers from low tier companies (Cisco, etc.) and sinking stock price. Top management is clueless on strategy (they traded one clown who was the CTO for another General Manager who is full of shit recently). Morale is bad. Common sense is uncommon in technical discussions.
    Nov 12 3
    • Dropbox nxUR42wid
      This 100%
      Nov 12
    • Facebook leetworld
      I did have a weird interview experience there few years ago. My interviewer was either autistic or the biggest jerk ever. Then I looked him up and saw he was a MIT grad who graduated at age 16 or so.
      Nov 12
    • Microsoft Redmond_
      Similar experience a few weeks ago. Phone screen for Senior ML position. They put a kid 2 years out of CMU to conduct the interview. Halfway through the kid wants to go "technically deeper". Half of the things I mentioned, he had never heard before. He started asking me to educate him about standard terms. In the end he "wasn't sure" and wanted me to have a 2nd phone screen. In the meantime I had told them I had expiring offers and on-sites with G and Apple already scheduled.
      Nov 12
  • Endurance / Eng lyamcha
    Does dropbox discriminate against applications from candidates from non faang companies?
    Nov 12 14
    • Facebook PureWin
      I don’t understand the confusion - it’s minority relative to the company’s current workforce, not the world.

      It’s as you said, if women make up 50% of the total population, it’s odd if they only occupy single digit percentages of tech and leadership positions.
      Nov 12
    • Axon axon
      But you are not surprised by their lack in the military and construction, and overrepresentation in nursing?
      Nov 13
    • Twitter CkLj82
      Not to mention the huge underrepresentation in prison...
      Nov 13
    • Dropbox IVUD13
      Also womxn are heavily under-represented in work-related injuries but you don't see me going around asking Dropbox admins to become coal miners.
      Nov 14
    • RingCentral / Eng fhgdsdg476
      YES.... they do... I went to an onsite with them in February , 3/5 interviewers just assumed that I wouldn't be able to answer the questions correctly, very condescending overall. I believe I did pretty well, the recruiter sent me a rejection email 3 weeks later, without any feedback or anything. In the other hand, Google was the opposite, even Amazon was better. Looks like their "latino/immigrant" quota was already met.
      Nov 28
  • Dropbox bekk
    Op what's your new TC offered from Dropbox? Keep in mind that stock refresher here is worse than FB. And if you are already at 330, I doubt IC3 offer can be a lot better than what you already have.
    Nov 10 20
    • Google / Eng Compile
      1 year cliff
      Nov 25
    • Dropbox 📚 face
      Refreshers are immediate vesting I think
      Nov 25
    • Facebook ambmns
      What? I think refresher is for the next 4 yrs
      Nov 25
    • Facebook / Data
      RScP24

      Facebook Data

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      Amazon
      RScP24more
      How does 1yr cliff work? Will you get 1st year shares at the end of year? If you get it as soon as you complete 1st year, its ok... else, first year salary would be base+sign on only
      Nov 25
    • Facebook ambmns
      Yes. Fb used to have 1 yr cliff also.
      Nov 25
  • Dropbox xkSy52
    I’m a TL here.

    Pros:
    - AMAZING WLB. Truly, the only company that respects that. Unlimited PTO and great perks. I put in ~30-35 hours (or less depending on workload) and am able still to get “exceeds” ratings on my reviews. this combined with such a great time off/wfh policy makes the company unbeatable in WLB.
    - Great comp (with competing offers). At IC3 easily 380ish TC (or more)
    - Fun people. They hire really great culture fit and I’ve made many friends that have lasted past the company.
    - the gym. seriously, if you even workout a little bit the gym is insane. It competes with equinox and is really great

    Cons:
    - stock price dropping, which kills morale and ties directly to your comp
    - some teams are mind numbing boring (I’ve switched teams a couple of times), avoid growth like the plague
    - future product vision is unclear - there’s a direction but not quite sure how we’ll get there

    Neutral:
    - new office is fine. some are complaining due to location in dog patch, but honestly, you can’t have it all. At the end of the day, it’s huge, has great food and still is in the city. Beats commuting to South Bay and living there

    I’d avoid paper and growth imo. infra is still pretty amazing and fun. I’d join infra enjoy it for a year and see what happens
    Nov 12 10
    • Amazon OyQW43
      is payment and store team part of the growth team u refer to?
      Nov 14
    • Facebook zvbxxnm
      Just to confirm, infra team is fine?
      Nov 14
    • Dropbox xkSy52
      infra is fine
      Nov 15
    • Dropbox EjoK34
      infra is fine. Payment and store are in Seattle.
      Nov 15
    • Facebook zvbxxnm
      How abt search, sync, and storage?
      Nov 15
  • SAP RrWs73
    Dropbox is a feature, not a company
    Nov 12 0
  • Amazon berryblack
    Holy shit Dropbox still exists?
    Nov 12 2
  • Google hukg
    Comp is low
    Nov 12 5
    • Dropbox / Eng brumdb
      Comparing to G it's actually high.
      Nov 12
    • Amazon OyQW43
      what is ur TC @hukg
      Nov 12
    • Google DByeX
      That’s a myth and only true if you don’t know how to negotiate with G (or overleveled at DBX)
      Nov 12
    • Dropbox / Eng brumdb
      How to negotiate with G? I'm gonna do that soon and would love to get some nice TC higher than in Dbx.
      Nov 12
    • Google DByeX
      Differs across levels but mostly get FB offer. Ideally also find some manager that needs you yourself before you talk to recruiters.
      Nov 12
  • Facebook Lt. Ilia
    Beware Dir PDM Christina Thorpe. Bullies should be called-out.
    Nov 12 4
    • Amazon OyQW43
      What did she do
      Nov 13
    • Facebook Lt. Ilia
      Disagree with her and find out. :)

      She turns a blind eye to dishonesty on her team (she seems to hire/promote for it) and bullies anyone who gets in her way.
      Nov 13
    • Dropbox / Eng Xyrl38
      There are so many female PDM directors that are bullies, they all need to be called-our. Most have been there at Dropbox for too long.
      Nov 26
    • Facebook Lt. Ilia
      That product has multiple Dir PDMs? 😆
      Nov 27
  • Dropbox sizzler
    It’s a sinking ship, but you can make good money as it goes down.
    Nov 13 3
    • Amazon OyQW43
      Do you think DBX have the chance to go up in stock market?
      Nov 13
    • Google DByeX
      Sure it has a chance. I’d give it more than 50% chance of going “up” but you gotta take into account the **risk-adjusted** return amortized annually and compare that against other choices. Me personally would buy FB over DBX even at current valuations for example.
      Nov 13
    • Amazon OyQW43
      Thank you
      Nov 13
  • Microsoft NotYourHR
    Moved to OneDrive. Way better integration and my files aren't randomly duplicated /deleted
    Nov 12 0
  • Facebook BlindBandt
    How the fuck is your TC 330K if you're an IC3?
    Nov 12 3
    • Dropbox 📚 face
      Because the level mappings from DBX to Facebook are different...
      Nov 12
    • Facebook BlindBandt
      Oh it's Dropbox IC3... which is like FB E5?
      Nov 12
    • Dropbox 📚 face
      Yes :)
      Nov 12
  • Amazon bdie
    Dropbox still a thing??
    Nov 12 0
  • Microsoft presci
    I would love to work for DBX. It’s just the stagnant stock price and the potential future ramifications of that which make me skeptical
    Nov 10 0
  • Endurance / Eng lyamcha
    Box is actually so much better than Dropbox
    Nov 12 1
  • Facebook Consciou$
    Good place to rest and vest
    Nov 13 0
  • Dropbox rawhide
    good
    Nov 10 0

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